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OMFG READ THIS WERE IN TROUBLE@!
Tsubasa:
Hehe, considering it's called ';D' and hasn't been released for ages, maybe. But at least we know there is a t/l working on it and it's got raws too, so yeah, if not dropped/dropped?/stalled, it falls under active. :)
* Tsubasa ..... s.
Wait a sec. >_>
Oh my, this thread is on it's way to qualify for the post of a sticky topic soon if we don't stop the argument here. :o
Look what Masa and my bickering started, a thread starting with such an ~_~ 1st post leading to this. :P
Meh, someone lock it or it will lead to the L-E Intra-fansubbing group war. :'(
-Tsubie
suzaku_nomiko:
MY $0.02
Regardless, of the state of L-E is or what you PERCEIVE the state of L-E to be, this inter-bickering amongst the inner staff and the flagrant use of profanities in a PUBLIC forum by un-named persons and/or personnel is highly unwarranted and un-professional.
If the need for such a thing is felt so badly is best left to IRC or IM or other such device that does not leave a permanent fingerprint such as a forum or bulletin board.
This forum is our window to the public, for any and all to see. We need to TRY to put forth a professional front. Regardless of what fractures L-E may or may not have at the time. It does not help AT ALL to have someone screaming about them or even worse seemingly trying to drive wedges into them in the public eye by throwing words at fellow staffers like “idiot” or “dumbf##k”.
Please use a bit more decorum, at least in the public eye.
After all, we ALL are on the same team here!
suzaku_nomiko:
As I stated in the above post.
This is not the place for such a topic IMHO and I won’t play this game.
If you really feel the need to discuss this further, you know how to reach me.
Suz.
Sindobook:
Once the number of groups out there was limited to less than 20.
And groups were very controlling of their members.
They tried to control what members did, how they lived, how much attention they paid to the group, how soon they performed their 'duties' in the group, what their duties were, who made 'leadership' decisions in the groups, and so on. They tried to control what other groups the members could belong to and how they acted in public and in private.
Some groups became increasingly inane and beurocratic sporting form after form for example: http://www.paranoia-live.net/forms/seminar-form.htm and either became paralyzed or developed elaborate security protocol: http://www.paranoia-live.net/forms/dfsr.htm which resulted in no one being able to accomplish anything, much less comprehend their position or even communicate effectively with others around them.
Others split off or 'gave birth' to more (or less) productive groups, like Bakamx / Soldats, Anime-keep / Conclave, etc.; possibly losing important members in the process.
Most groups run this way have since faded into obscurity or adopted alternate structures in order to survive.
From the beginning many people who joined this group have seen first-hand the effects of groups trying to control or create territory around their members and their members actions; furthermore with Live-eviL no single person nor the group can control another in terms of "private actions" or "public actions". Those duties are left to the pig, and in this matter, having not received any gifts or encouragement or bribes from either side his attitude is one of complete indifference. The pig, in his wisdom, is more interested in his next meal of strawberries, banana, and romaine lettuce. Such is how it is, how it shall be, and how it always has been.
bobby6:
--- Quote from: Sindobook on September 15, 2006, 08:12:46 pm ---Once the number of groups out there was limited to less than 20.
And groups were very controlling of their members.
They tried to control what members did, how they lived, how much attention they paid to the group, how soon they performed their 'duties' in the group, what their duties were, who made 'leadership' decisions in the groups, and so on. They tried to control what other groups the members could belong to and how they acted in public and in private.
Some groups became increasingly inane and beurocratic sporting form after form for example: http://www.paranoia-live.net/forms/seminar-form.htm and either became paralyzed or developed elaborate security protocol: http://www.paranoia-live.net/forms/dfsr.htm which resulted in no one being able to accomplish anything, much less comprehend their position or even communicate effectively with others around them.
Others split off or 'gave birth' to more (or less) productive groups, like Bakamx / Soldats, Anime-keep / Conclave, etc.; possibly losing important members in the process.
Most groups run this way have since faded into obscurity or adopted alternate structures in order to survive.
From the beginning many people who joined this group have seen first-hand the effects of groups trying to control or create territory around their members and their members actions; furthermore with Live-eviL no single person nor the group can control another in terms of "private actions" or "public actions". Those duties are left to the pig, and in this matter, having not received any gifts or encouragement or bribes from either side his attitude is one of complete indifference. The pig, in his wisdom, is more interested in his next meal of strawberries, banana, and romaine lettuce. Such is how it is, how it shall be, and how it always has been.
--- End quote ---
I agree with you on some points as far as censorship goes, but in this case, I don't think it's as much about trying to unjustly keep group members from their right to free speech as it is about try to curb needlessly excessive, nagative posts that serve no particular constructive purpose.
Yes people should have a right to say what is on their mind, and I wouldn't want to be a part of group that tried to force me not to, but at a certain point when it becomes less about appropriately voicing a concern or opinion, and more about just ripping people apart and causing controversy, enough is enough, and it really should be dealt with.
It is perfectly possible for someone to voice whatever opinions they have in a tactful an professional manner. And I think what people are really upset about here is not the voicing of opinions, but the balatant disregard for decorum and common courtesy towards others when doing so.
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