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keepergirl:

--- Quote from: hostghost on November 18, 2006, 01:38:57 pm ---What I find intresting is that Light takes the role that the law usually have, and the things most of you call barbaric are things the law usually do. The only diffrence is that one person instead of multiple instances condemn the criminals.
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This was essentially what I was getting at.  I, myself, believe in the death penalty for murderers (and there are a few other crimes that I believe warrant the death penalty but the law disagrees with me here).  All Light started out doing was giving the death penalty to those criminals that the law had already deemed as guilty.  If I remember correctly, those criminals were ones who had committed felonies, not really lesser crimes.  Only later on did his actions go further, eventually leading him to kill others who committed less severe crimes and even innocents.  But that all happened after the police and L had made Light out to be their enemy.

Light's actions in killing criminals really are neither black nor white, neither right nor wrong.  In my opinion, killing the criminals was okay.  Killing the innocent people was wrong, but a wrong that was necessitated by the interference of the victims.  (But still a wrong, nonetheless.)

Perhaps if he hadn't been made out to be a criminal, Light's actions would have helped reduce crime rates, at least in Japan.  (Although, I do see Light as being the type of person who would wipe out crime first, and then start killing those who disagree with him, or those who get driving tickets, and so forth.  I think he loves the power he feels he has through using the Death Note, so I could definitely see him taking things way too far.)

twik:
I can see why some people still think Light is not so bad, but his days of killing criminals for justice are long gone.  Perhaps somewhere in his head he still thinks all he is doing is making the world a better place, but more and more he is acting out of fear of persecution.  The criminals he kills now are used for learning the capabilities of the Death Note rather than fulfilling some sense of duty to the public, and he has shown that he has no problem using this knowledge against innocent people.  Light has shown himself to be a highly intelligent individual.  A truly just person would try to find a way to continue his crusade while evading capture but at the first sign of trouble Light goes on a killing spree.  Are these the actions of a just man?

sosanimeboy:
You've got to realize that he's a high school student tied to his family and he can't just 'evade capture' without being noticed.

keepergirl:

--- Quote from: twik on November 19, 2006, 01:50:37 am ---I can see why some people still think Light is not so bad, but his days of killing criminals for justice are long gone.  Perhaps somewhere in his head he still thinks all he is doing is making the world a better place, but more and more he is acting out of fear of persecution.  The criminals he kills now are used for learning the capabilities of the Death Note rather than fulfilling some sense of duty to the public, and he has shown that he has no problem using this knowledge against innocent people.  Light has shown himself to be a highly intelligent individual.  A truly just person would try to find a way to continue his crusade while evading capture but at the first sign of trouble Light goes on a killing spree.  Are these the actions of a just man?

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I don't think Light is a just man.  He started out as a just man, but he has crossed the line to being a killer now.  That doesn't make me respect or admire him any less.  I've always found the "bad guys" in shows to be more interesting than the good guys.  Light never disappoints me with his intelligence and organization.  Episode 7 showed us the he's very good at cleaning up his messes.  These are all characteristics that I admire.  So as it stands right now, I support Light more than L. 
My points above were to demonstrate that Light only began killing innocent people after "the law" had started going after him.  But I also said that killing innocent people is wrong. 
Do I think Light's a killer?  Yes.  Do I hope he gets caught?  No.  I enjoy watching him and trying to figure out what he'll do next.  He's intelligent, rational, and an overall entertaining character.

(By the way, I also agree with sosanimeboy.  Light needs to go on living his ordinary life in order to not draw attention to himself.  However, even just living his ordinary life brought him to the attention of L, since he's related to a police officer.  So it's really not that easy for him to avoid being detected and/or caught.)

tlynnec:
You know, there's an old saying: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."  To me that's the perfect description of Light's behavior.  When it started out, he truly had good intentions, and I think he still does.  Remember his reaction in the first episode when he realized that he was responsible for Taku's (the biker's) death?  He was genuinely horrified at his own actions. Psychologically speaking he HAD to justify his own actions to himself or be consumed by the guilt.  And it's as he's used his good intentions to justify his own actions to himself that he as gradually crossed over the line.  Since that first moment of self-justification, we've watched him quickly develop a god complex.  That complex is a psychological form of self-preservation: the actions of a god are beyond question of good or evil and therefore require no justification or guilt.

Historically speaking, we've seen this with people who are generally perceived as "evil."  Hitler is a prime example.  When he was elected as president of the Weimer Republic, it was because he preached a doctrine of economic salvation.  His early actions after being elected were in the best interest of the german people and include policies and programs to resurrect the german economy (which had been destroyed by WWI) and improve Germany. But we all know that he too quickly crossed the line.  He used to the salvation of Germany to justify war and murder.  I'm not saying that Light is headed for genocide, but the psychological comparison still stands.

Whoa... didn't mean to write a book. *Shuts up*

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