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Tsubasa Chronicle 2nd Season MASTER THREAD
archangel:
errata: sorry I meant judo not sumo in post above about Yawara. Was watching a thing on Sumo at time of writing and just caught the mistake. Sorry Yawara fans.
DIABLO_CHRoNO:
its not about my fix is better than yours here....
i've read the topic and i dont think anybody said galaxy express on captain harlock is bad.. or "I hate those who like galaxy express or creamy mami"
instead.. i do hear a lot of "Tsubasa-tard" and "i hate you clamp lover!"
chill out guys.. anime.. in general its great..
and has many, many branches, there's shounen anime, shoujo anime, hentai, psi-fi anime, pop anime and Gods knows how many more..
so... just the fact that you and me both like anime, it doesnt mean that we like the same anime... but we have to respect each other..
we are starting to sound like Star trek fans VS star wars fans..
and I want to be more focussed on anime, period, not in flaming other guys who dont like the same anime I like..
bottom line: you cant compare one anime to another.. they are different, after all, its just anime. ENJOY IT!!!!
PEACE
Azalie:
Well, ok gumbaloom, I completely understand your perspective when you put it that way. I'm sure that if we Tsubasa fans got 1 episode a year while some other anime like Yawara got subbed every week, some Tsubasa fans would come over and troll the Yawara forums. But still.. wouldn't you get kind of put off if the Tsubasa fans were coming over and saying, "Yawara is not worth it and isn't special at all, the fans are so annoying blah blah" Wouldn't you be kind of put off? I'm just saying.. not trying to start a war or anything, I just want to see some Tsubasa fan posts other than the ever so popular "WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE SUBBED!!11!!" posts, and angry posts about how they don't like Tsubasa.
The fans can't help what Tofu wants to put on priority, so no reason to flame the fans over it, right? ^^
Xagest:
There's just something... mesmerizing about Tsubasa Chronicle. I don't know what it is. I keep telling myself, "This is crap. That's the lamest line I've ever heard.", but I keep watching it.
There's just something about the characters that make me smile. The whole Syaoran/Ryuoh friendship, for instance, was enough to make my day feel good (I'll even go as far to say that I'm probably a bit jealous...). In a lot of ways, I wish the storytelling was a bit better because the characters deserve it.
gumbaloom:
--- Quote from: Azalie on May 18, 2006, 08:04:28 am ---Well, ok gumbaloom, I completely understand your perspective when you put it that way. I'm sure that if we Tsubasa fans got 1 episode a year while some other anime like Yawara got subbed every week, some Tsubasa fans would come over and troll the Yawara forums. But still.. wouldn't you get kind of put off if the Tsubasa fans were coming over and saying, "Yawara is not worth it and isn't special at all, the fans are so annoying blah blah" Wouldn't you be kind of put off? I'm just saying.. not trying to start a war or anything, I just want to see some Tsubasa fan posts other than the ever so popular "WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE SUBBED!!11!!" posts, and angry posts about how they don't like Tsubasa.
The fans can't help what Tofu wants to put on priority, so no reason to flame the fans over it, right? ^^
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Haha
My pet project is subbing Sailor Moon Musicals. You can't believe the amount of laughing and finger pointing that I get for doing that and being told "oh ma gaawd you suck".
I tried to find some fansubbers to work on a joint product and pretty much people just laughed in my face so I'm kinda impervious to trolling of that kinda. Also my release schedule for that stuff is kinda once ever 4 / 5 months as well so :x.
The 2 things which irk me the most from my experiences of the Tsubasa fandom are
1) Complacency - A lot of the Tsubasa fans are waaaaaaaaaay too complacent about how eps get subbed like clockwork each week. You really shouldn't be complacent as that can be a bad thing :x
2) Closed-mindedness - To quote a previous poster my experiences of the Tsubasa fandom are a good percentage of them are "OMFG Tsubasa is the best thing EVAR and everything else sucks". If I was completely closed minded I'd say Tsubasa SUCKS straight out of hand but I don't, I say it's just not all that great. I just wish that even 5% of the Tsubasa fandom would try out other shows. Like I said before the torrent statistics on our torrent page speak for themselves. Tsubasa eps average 50 - 60,000 eps, other shows 1 - 2,000 downloads. If even just a small fraction of those people tried out our other shows ( I'm not counting posters on this forum here ) it would be a good thing as they'd be discovering the joys of classic anime. I'll admit I'm a Sailor Moon freak heck my profile says so too and that's my pet project here but I've given other stuff a chance like when I first got assigned the job of typesetting Yawara, I'd never ever seen the show in my life but I just got on with the job and after a few episodes it grew on me and I began to like it more. Same goes for Detective Academy Q. I just randomly QC'd an ep of it to get it done faster and ended up buying the R2's.
The percentage of filler opposed to main story on Tsubasa has been way too high for my tastes but when they do actually cover the MAIN plotline it can actually be semi interesting. The production standards on the last world of Season 1(once it got going) were not bad at all leading up to the final moment where he escaped with the feather. Theres also been way too little plot development on learning more about the main enemy. If they'd focus more on the main plotline instead of filler it would hold my interest a lot more.
I do sincerely hope that Tsubasa doesnt lapse back in to filler for a good percentage of the season because of how they managed to cover a whole volumes worth of managa of Piffle in just 3 episodes because if that happens it would lead to an inordinate balance of Manga material vs. Anime filler. Not disregarding the fact that the Tsubasa manga isn't actually finished yet in Japan.
I'll admit even Sailor Stars in some parts aint that great. A good majority of the Sailor Moon anime is the whole "monster of the day" thing and it sucks royally but theres enough of the main plotline to keep you interested and once you get to ep 190 it's those last 10 eps which is why it earned the title of one of the best anime endings ever put to print.
My point being you could compare Tsubasa's "world of the week" type storylines to Sailor Moon's monster of the day plotlines.
I just hope for Tsubasa's sake that sooner or later it actually kicks in to high dear and focuses on main plotline for the later half of it's 72 ep run rather than "world of the week" mediocrity.
Don't get me wrong I know the "world of the week" stuff is needed but I just think the balance has been a little too much in favour of that than main plotline development.
Of the anime's of recent times that I've thought had absolutely superb plot development Fullmetal Alchemist is a perfect example. Scar was there for a good percentage of the story and he turns out to be a crucial part of the equation at the end and a lot of other intertwining story lines that all combine together and come together at the end and make you go OMFG!!!!. A lot of the later episodes of FMA were OMFG WTF I need the next ep NOW and especially when you learned things about the Elric's father and Dante.
My question is over and above -
a) Collect the feathers
b) They're being watched by evil forces who occassionaly interfere
c) They're cooking up an evil Dark Syaoran
What's the bigger picture. Where are the threads of the story being laid which will make you go "OMFG so THAT's why that happened" when they do the big reveal in a later ep. I've yet to see anything like that yet. It's that sort of plot development which distinguishes a great anime from a good anime.
-gumbaloom
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