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Should L-E(& D-B) sub Tsubasa S3 (Tofusensei wanted dead of alive ??????)

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Warai Otoko:
Well, I see I created quite the stirr around here. I'd like to first of all state that the intentions of my post were not nearly as malicious as you seem to interpret them, see it just as the ravings of a fan who has been waiting years for some of his favourite shows and sees the dropping of a project such as Death Note as a freeing up of resources available for these older titles. I am very glad with what I have read though, you sure seem to be a dedicated bunch of fansubbers.


--- Quote from: Tsubasa ---Warai Otoko, you apparently have a problem with us dropping shows since dropping shows, according to you, means we made a mistake of picking them up in the first place. Yet you are suggesting us to drop our classics as well. So what are you saying? That we don't commit ourselves to subbing anything all?
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That is not nearly what I was saying. I am not suggesting that you just drop everything that does not see any speed in its releases or which seems to be on hold for now; I suggest that it may be a good idea for L-E to carefully go about the possibilities for each project and ask yourselves if there is any relevant chance whatsoever that it may get back running. If you see no such chance now and the project has already been stalled for over a year, would it not be a better idea to give your fans some clarity and drop those projects? You definitely made your point about the fact that you fansubbers should sub what you like and I can surely sympathize with that; why voluntarily do a job you do not like?


--- Quote from: Tsubasa ---Other groups? What other groups are you talking about? Name me other groups subbing the classics we do with a slower than average release rate.
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I don't really think that I understand what you're trying to say here; do you want me to name other groups that sub other classic anime comparable to those that are seemingly stalled in your portfolio of shows?

Anyway, I was not trying to piss you guys of, but this had been bothering me for quite some time now. I hope you can atleast imagine it is somewhat annoying for a fan to see new projects come and go, while some of the older projects that he or she likes do not get the attention they deserve. I now know that the internals of Live-eviL have changed drastically over the years, but how was I supposed to know that these older shows are stalled because of that or because there is another single factor holding a project back? That is why I initially suggested you drop them, as this gives a clear sign to your fans. You may have no obligation towards them, but atleast carefully communicating the status of the projects they hold dear should be a possibility, right?


--- Quote from: bobby6 ---If on the other hand, you really do care about helping, and not just useless griping, please DO contact the project manager of your favorite series.
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One final remark then; I believe this is a bit easy to say. You are the ones doing the fansubbing work because you yourselves chose to do it. Nobody forced you to do it, but with taking the task up on yourselves, at least some responsibility comes. I'd like to believe that I would surely have done something to help you or any other fansubgroup doing classics , but I just do not have the time for it. You guys surely know how much time is spent on the hobby and if I do something I like, I'd like to give it my all and not do a half-assed job, which I'd surely do if I were to help out a group with my current obligations. I do atleast contribute to anime fandom, however, as I nearly solely run a reviewsite, which takes up quite a bit of my free time. But I'd also like to have enough time to be able to atleast watch anime.

Blue Mage:

--- Quote from: Warai Otoko on January 16, 2007, 01:27:35 pm ---One final remark then; I believe this is a bit easy to say. You are the ones doing the fansubbing work because you yourselves chose to do it. Nobody forced you to do it, but with taking the task up on yourselves, at least some responsibility comes. I'd like to believe that I would surely have done something to help you or any other fansubgroup doing classics , but I just do not have the time for it. You guys surely know how much time is spent on the hobby and if I do something I like, I'd like to give it my all and not do a half-assed job, which I'd surely do if I were to help out a group with my current obligations. I do atleast contribute to anime fandom, however, as I nearly solely run a reviewsite, which takes up quite a bit of my free time. But I'd also like to have enough time to be able to atleast watch anime.

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The only responsibility in fansubbing is what responsibility we allow there to be. This group has never had a policy of releasing within a given period. Shows take as long as they take. If we had made that sort of guarantee, you might have a point. You say that your review site takes up quite a bit of your free time. Personally (and this is the same for many of the others in L-E) fansubbing takes up all of my free time. I no longer have time to watch anime or do any of the other things I enjoy.

Base line:
A lot of leechers don't understand this simple concept. All the resources of the group are not shared equally between all the projects of the group. You'll find this is the same in virtually every other fansubbing group out there. Groups like to keep a team together on a project. If that project goes into a stall, it really is up to the team members to come up with the resource to replace whatever member has dropped out for whatever reason, whether from inside the group or outside doesn't really matter. You could easily get 3000 leagues to mother by getting ahold of legitimate raws (which are bloody expensive by the way) and finding a translator. Until someone is able to do that, that project will be stalled.

Masakari:
Why is this a bloody question?



Guys - really - Get onto some projects that aren't ill fated and on the chopping block for immanent licensing.

Either that, or become an underground fansbber - Cause floundering around picking up short lived projects is prolly as unsatisfactory to you as it is unsightly for others.

Tsubasa:
Popular shows = will get licensed.

-Tsubasa

Hmm that avatar isn't as cute as the ones we've seen before Masa.  :(

-Tsubasa

PlasticYakuza:
I had to vote "no". I don't want to see this have to be dropped, and with the disappointment and failure of the story in season 2, I rather see something else get done.

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