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Donating money to fansub groups....good or bad?

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tenkenX6:
Alright, this is a rather controversial(maybe) topic that may lead to interesting feedback. Plus, I was bored, so I decided to make a random poll thread.  :D Anyway, select a choice and state your reason(s).


Me, personally, I think donating to fansub groups is unnecessary and honestly, dumb. EDIT: Isn't fansubbing an enjoyable hobby that  is done with no monetary gains involved? You work together with others that share similar fansubbing passions as you and produce unique works.. EDIT: You can get free web hosting and etc these days, so the "we need money to maintain the servers and pay for the bandwidth" reason doesn't apply anymore. Sure, if people are donating their private servers/trackers/bandwidth/etc, it can cost some money, but they're doing this knowing and acknowledging the costs of this process. When I see fansub groups getting lots of donations every month, I start to wonder if they're using the money for their own personal gains, i.e. - like how certain politicians do with campaign money. You know, buying things for themselves, whatever it may be. Now, I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone or anything. I just thought I would post my stance on the matter.  :)

Sindobook:
Why do groups need money?  It doesn't really cost much money, just time, which is volunteered.  Everything else is pretty cheap or free. 

More than several years ago, money used to be a bigger part of fansubbing, from the 'sponsorship' donations fansubbers would ask for to the $10,000.-or-so profit a major fansub 'distro' (VHS or SVHS) like kodocha could make on the side.  But those days are pretty much gone, you have BT, you have free websites, etc. 

Don't get me wrong the pig gets a lot of 'donations' every month, especially carrots, shiny objects, and other 'chewables'.  But he has no use for money, once someone sent him some paper bills and he just chewed them up.

Tofusensei:
Only if the group needs something tangible and absolutely cannot afford it. (e.g. DVDs for a particular classic show, etc.) Taking donations to cover "server costs" is unacceptable. I think it's unethical and I wish groups wouldn't do it. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Chihiro)

-Tofu

tenkenX6:

--- Quote from: Tofusensei on December 11, 2008, 03:23:19 am ---Only if the group needs something tangible and absolutely cannot afford it. (e.g. DVDs for a particular classic show, etc.)
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I have no problems with legitimate reasons like this. DVDs for classic series that have really hard to get or non-existant raws are costly. That's if they're still available/in print.



--- Quote from: Tofusensei on December 11, 2008, 03:23:19 am ---Taking donations to cover "server costs" is unacceptable. I think it's unethical and I wish groups wouldn't do it. (Yes, I'm looking at you, Chihiro)
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Yeah, it's the same thing corrupt politicians do with their campaign money. They may say it goes towards "legitimate this or that stuff" or whatever, but we can all probably guess where it really goes.

Saintevil:

--- Quote from: tenkenX6 on December 11, 2008, 09:06:01 am ---Yeah, it's the same thing corrupt politicians do with their campaign money. They may say it goes towards "legitimate this or that stuff" or whatever, but we can all probably guess where it really goes.

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We need beer money :)

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