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Sti_Brumby:
Kangaroo land wtf???? i live in australia and only see one if i'm lucky. There not everywere how you think.
Usagi_Yojimbo:
every experience I've had with an Evo "here in the states" just stinks. Mitsubishi sucks donkey dong and I wish they'd just go out of business already. no offense to any triple-tri fanboys here, but seriously they underbuild overhyped jelopi's under badge's of vehicles that used to be cool, like the Evo or the Eclipse. I say they need a good swift kick in the sack to get their shit straight.
Just_J:
The higher the octane number, the slower it burns, and the higher the temps need to be to light it off. Compression itself doesn't really come into play, the reason fuel detonates in high compression is because of all the heat.
Companies tune their cars to run on certain types of gas. It's not too hard to tweak a ECU map to run on crappy gas for a different country, it's the same as when a car such as a WRC car switches maps for the road sections. Less aggression in the mixture (they run the car richer, use less aggressive timing) = less risk of pinging = more reliability. Hell, here in the states, the gas Quality from Mobil may be better than the gas from Phillips 66, or you may get a bad batch of gas. That's why all modern cars have Knock sensors. While they can't cure really bad detonation, they can retard the timing enough to quell small pings. Many stock cars will ping under high load in warm weather.
In the US we use (RON + MON)/2 for our octane rating, some countries use one or the other, which can be misleading. I'm not sure if it's still the case, but there was a lot of debate about how cars in Japan use higher octane, thus they run higher power numbers than what is possible in the US. Only Japan uses RON, which reads as a higher number than (RON + MON)/2. So 96 Octane in Japan may be the same as 91 in the states. The cars are detuned for emissions overhead.
--- Quote ---every experience I've had with an Evo "here in the states" just stinks. Mitsubishi sucks donkey dong and I wish they'd just go out of business already. no offense to any triple-tri fanboys here, but seriously they underbuild overhyped jelopi's under badge's of vehicles that used to be cool, like the Evo or the Eclipse. I say they need a good swift kick in the sack to get their shit straight.
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I'll agree that Mitsu is a sh*t company, but the EVO is a great car.
Usagi_Yojimbo:
Don't get me wrong I'm sure it's a blast to drive, but the recent Evo released in the U.S. ( the Evo VIII right?? ) doesn't compare to Evo three's or four's, and I really my poiny is better made when you look at the Eclipse, the new generation is Eclipse is SO UGLY, and when was the last time they made a GSX,....... bastards.
Just_J:
--- Quote ---Don't get me wrong I'm sure it's a blast to drive, but the recent Evo released in the U.S. ( the Evo VIII right?? ) doesn't compare to Evo three's or four's, and I really my poiny is better made when you look at the Eclipse, the new generation is Eclipse is SO UGLY, and when was the last time they made a GSX,....... bastards.
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As far as the styling goes, the V and VI were my favorite. However, the VIII and the upcoming IX, are in almost every way better than the III, IV, and even the V. The VII was a peice of crap, too heavy, and ugly. The VIII, while still not a beauty to look at, is quicker, and more agile.
It seems both Mitsu and Subaru took a step back from the VI and Vers. 6 (respectively), before they began taking bigger steps forward.
I remember the New Age STi, while fast, wasn't as fast, or as nimble as the outgoing GC/GM chassis, because it was so damn heavy. The V6 weighed less than my RS (2825), at around 2770 lbs. IIRC, the New Age weighed more than that in Spec C trim. The current car is still heavy, but it's more powerful, and more agile than ever before.
As far as the Eclipse goes, sales numbers dictate the life of a car, and a trim level. The GSX accounted for less than 10% of Eclipse sales. The GST was a bit more, but the bulk of Mitsu's profits came from the RS, GS, and the Spyder. From a money making standpoint, it was smart of them to switch to a FWD V6 (existing drivetrain). I don't like it, but Mitsu needs to sell cars, and the GSX wasn't cutting it.
I can't stand Mitsu, so I'm not really defending them, just throwing out the logic as to why they did what they did. ;)
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