Topic: Initial D 4th Stage comments... - Archive Topic (Locked)

[lifesaver]

when is the fan sub for ep 5 & 6 is comin out??
the chinese fansub version is already out....
not to piss anyone but keep up the good work Live-Evil.

where's the chinese fansub for 5,6? and if it's in rvmb format, forget that i asked

[GrayGhost]

FF dont really drift... its just a powerslide as its impossible to link successive corners together with FF... to powerslide just shift the weight to the front and use the e-brake . Depending on how your car is balanced you can use left foot braking to get the back end out as well.

PS great job on the fansubs live-evil... I am impatiently waiting for 5&6  

[Red_Suns_FC3S]

Q: how can you get a FF to drift, like if say you were in the toudou school?

::)FF's cannot drift. It's what is called an Ass Drag. Since you cannot produce natural oversteer in an FF like in a FR or MR, their is no way to really keep it in that position without a loss of traction to the rear wheels. The best thing you can do is pull the hand-brake and ass drag or slide.

I goto a show over the summer over here and its a dirft meet and I see alot of civics and Integras' trying it. But to tell you the truth they look really dumb trying to do it. You can't make real oversteer without the rear wheels spinning so whats the use of trying? The thing that kinda anoys some of the purists is guys out there who can think a Civic or some sort of other FF can go out there and play with the rest of the rear driven boys... it's just pretty lame if you ask me. Your wasting your time. If you want to do it... go put some milk trays under your real wheels and try it like that. Thats about the ony way you'll get an idea of what it's like. I'd say save up for a starters drifters car and learn the right way.

[GrayGhost]

ass drag lol very techical term... lol. I like FF cars... tho not for drifting. But I do think that can be faster racing touge partially because of the lack of throttle caused oversteer.

[MrFrustration]

 

You're both wrong. First off, FWD can oversteer. However, there aren't any FWD cars that do oversteer. Secondly, oversteer is overrated. It's an easy way for your typical wannabe to get in serious trouble. (See Dale Earnhardt Jr., who can't frigging drive.) The reason FWDs understeer is to keep the newbies out of trouble. Or into trouble, more frequently.
If I am going racing, and I am serious about it, I want -neutral- handling. I do not want oversteer or understeer, I want the car to go where I point it. At most I want a very very small and finite amount of oversteer if I need to power through certain turns.
If you guys wnat to see some real drifting, watch the WRC guys. Now here's an interesting fact for you - those cars are 4WD, and have very neutral handling under throttle, generally speaking. Yet they can swing a hairpin going through the whole thing sideways. How? Braking. WRC cars have three pedals, and none of them is a clutch. One throttle, then front and rear brakes are split. The slides they pull are induced purely by braking either heavily in the front or rear to produce the desired effect. If I'm going for a left hairpin, I'll want to brake hard front to get the car into a nosedive. If I hit a spot with no traction, I'm in trouble. So I get off the brakes after the nose is down, start swinging the wheel, and mash the rears to break traction. They pull straight with the front wheels before the rear wheels start putting power down.
So can a FWD drift? Yes. The thing is that it requries two major components; very specific suspension geometry, and a lot of torque. Anything made by Honda lacks both. Especially torque. How do you do it? You point the wheels the direction you wanna go. Brake hard to nose dive, snap the ebrake to dump your rear traction, and get hard on the throttle right away. Only one problem - you need equal length half shafts. Otherwise you're going to dorksteer into the nearest (ditch,wall,car.) If you're looking for equal length half-shafts, the list is short. Dodge Daytonas with 2.2 Turbos, Dodge Chargers, Shadow VNTs, and the Shelby mutants. And no, a differential does NOT make up for equal length half-shafts, despite what Daimler-Chrysler claims.

[Yoten]

Episodes 5 and 6 are on indefinite hiatus until certain people decide that they should show up and do the work they originally promised to do. They're pissing off the people who worked hard to get a "fast" release for once this time.

How's that?

[DARCnarc]

seriously, am i like the only one who's checkin this site like every couple of hours?, coz i dont wanna b obsessed but as days are rolling on im becoming a nervous wreck.  Im even checkin bw classes at uni and its kinda gettin ridiculous :-P    

i know so many otha ppl already asked this but sum kinda indication in days would b really great just to alleviate these feelings and compulsions

[Bukkake-Kun]

i know so many otha ppl already asked this but sum kinda indication in days would b really great just to alleviate these feelings and compulsions

Please understand that it's impossible to give an estimate in days when some of their team members are not present.

No matter how long it takes, I think it will be worth the wait.

[thork]

New to the forums, and probably won't post often, but I thoroughly enjoy the fansubs of the new season/Stage of Initial D.

I am eagerly awaiting the 5th Act, but will wait longer for it, I hear from some friends in Japan that it is going to be awesome.

To the people who create these great pieces of translation, thank you.

*waiting patiently*

(FWD can not "drift" in the traditional form, though they do compete and win drift competitions sometimes. But FWD performance driving=grip. Drift is a show of the skill of the driver with his control of oversteering, as well as other skills/factors/techniques while controling his slide. Just do a little research on drift competitions/theory for the answers.)

[DARCnarc]

still.. i dunno how long i can hold out, im losin sleep and already forgot to feed my dog once, next... who knows

[hippopotomoose]

ok so are the FF truly faster for the average driver on a course like special stage #11 than FR?

[GrayGhost]

You're both wrong. First off, FWD can oversteer. However, there aren't any FWD cars that do oversteer. Secondly, oversteer is overrated. It's an easy way for your typical wannabe to get in serious trouble. (See Dale Earnhardt Jr., who can't frigging drive.) The reason FWDs understeer is to keep the newbies out of trouble. Or into trouble, more frequently.
If I am going racing, and I am serious about it, I want -neutral- handling. I do not want oversteer or understeer, I want the car to go where I point it. At most I want a very very small and finite amount of oversteer if I need to power through certain turns.
If you guys wnat to see some real drifting, watch the WRC guys. Now here's an interesting fact for you - those cars are 4WD, and have very neutral handling under throttle, generally speaking. Yet they can swing a hairpin going through the whole thing sideways. How? Braking. WRC cars have three pedals, and none of them is a clutch. One throttle, then front and rear brakes are split. The slides they pull are induced purely by braking either heavily in the front or rear to produce the desired effect. If I'm going for a left hairpin, I'll want to brake hard front to get the car into a nosedive. If I hit a spot with no traction, I'm in trouble. So I get off the brakes after the nose is down, start swinging the wheel, and mash the rears to break traction. They pull straight with the front wheels before the rear wheels start putting power down.
So can a FWD drift? Yes. The thing is that it requries two major components; very specific suspension geometry, and a lot of torque. Anything made by Honda lacks both. Especially torque. How do you do it? You point the wheels the direction you wanna go. Brake hard to nose dive, snap the ebrake to dump your rear traction, and get hard on the throttle right away. Only one problem - you need equal length half shafts. Otherwise you're going to dorksteer into the nearest (ditch,wall,car.) If you're looking for equal length half-shafts, the list is short. Dodge Daytonas with 2.2 Turbos, Dodge Chargers, Shadow VNTs, and the Shelby mutants. And no, a differential does NOT make up for equal length half-shafts, despite what Daimler-Chrysler claims.

hehe I have mentioned that previous.. 'lack of oversteer' - in otherwords 'balance' in my last post. I'm not sure about the equal lenght half shafts but I know I can get my cars ass out with a little left foot braking to transfer weight to the front. NO EBRAKE... I know lots of cars cant do this but w/e. o I drive a mazdaspeed protege. and yes I'm eagerly awaiting the next releases! but they are super quality so I dont want a rush job

[thork]

... yes I'm eagerly awaiting the next releases! but they are super quality so I dont want a rush job

Exactly, better to wait longer and get the same amazing quality fansub job as they have been doing.

Patience is virtue!  

[Importkitz]

I've downloaded the RAW version of episodes 5 & 6. I've watched it about 20 times now. I want to know what they are saying...

I watch the 6th episode everynight now before I go to bed.

Whats taking so long? Is there anything I can help with?

Just to let you know...I dont speak or understand Japanese. I wish I did...

BUT besides that...I love your work and keep it up.

[Hex]

/me twiddles thumbs whilst waiting for the staffing problems to sort themselfs out, then goes and re-watches ep's 1-4 again to remind my self its high qualty work and worth the wait.