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lifesaver:

--- Quote ---when is the fan sub for ep 5 & 6 is comin out??
the chinese fansub version is already out....
not to piss anyone but keep up the good work Live-Evil.
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where's the chinese fansub for 5,6? and if it's in rvmb format, forget that i asked

GrayGhost:
FF dont really drift... its just a powerslide as its impossible to link successive corners together with FF... to powerslide just shift the weight to the front and use the e-brake ;). Depending on how your car is balanced you can use left foot braking to get the back end out as well.

PS great job on the fansubs live-evil... I am impatiently waiting for 5&6  :D

Red_Suns_FC3S:

--- Quote ---Q: how can you get a FF to drift, like if say you were in the toudou school?
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::)FF's cannot drift. It's what is called an Ass Drag. Since you cannot produce natural oversteer in an FF like in a FR or MR, their is no way to really keep it in that position without a loss of traction to the rear wheels. The best thing you can do is pull the hand-brake and ass drag or slide.

I goto a show over the summer over here and its a dirft meet and I see alot of civics and Integras' trying it. But to tell you the truth they look really dumb trying to do it. You can't make real oversteer without the rear wheels spinning so whats the use of trying? The thing that kinda anoys some of the purists is guys out there who can think a Civic or some sort of other FF can go out there and play with the rest of the rear driven boys... it's just pretty lame if you ask me. Your wasting your time. If you want to do it... go put some milk trays under your real wheels and try it like that. Thats about the ony way you'll get an idea of what it's like. I'd say save up for a starters drifters car and learn the right way.

GrayGhost:
ass drag lol very techical term... lol. I like FF cars... tho not for drifting. But I do think that can be faster racing touge partially because of the lack of throttle caused oversteer.

MrFrustration:
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You're both wrong. First off, FWD can oversteer. However, there aren't any FWD cars that do oversteer. Secondly, oversteer is overrated. It's an easy way for your typical wannabe to get in serious trouble. (See Dale Earnhardt Jr., who can't frigging drive.) The reason FWDs understeer is to keep the newbies out of trouble. Or into trouble, more frequently.
If I am going racing, and I am serious about it, I want -neutral- handling. I do not want oversteer or understeer, I want the car to go where I point it. At most I want a very very small and finite amount of oversteer if I need to power through certain turns.
If you guys wnat to see some real drifting, watch the WRC guys. Now here's an interesting fact for you - those cars are 4WD, and have very neutral handling under throttle, generally speaking. Yet they can swing a hairpin going through the whole thing sideways. How? Braking. WRC cars have three pedals, and none of them is a clutch. One throttle, then front and rear brakes are split. The slides they pull are induced purely by braking either heavily in the front or rear to produce the desired effect. If I'm going for a left hairpin, I'll want to brake hard front to get the car into a nosedive. If I hit a spot with no traction, I'm in trouble. So I get off the brakes after the nose is down, start swinging the wheel, and mash the rears to break traction. They pull straight with the front wheels before the rear wheels start putting power down.
So can a FWD drift? Yes. The thing is that it requries two major components; very specific suspension geometry, and a lot of torque. Anything made by Honda lacks both. Especially torque. How do you do it? You point the wheels the direction you wanna go. Brake hard to nose dive, snap the ebrake to dump your rear traction, and get hard on the throttle right away. Only one problem - you need equal length half shafts. Otherwise you're going to dorksteer into the nearest (ditch,wall,car.) If you're looking for equal length half-shafts, the list is short. Dodge Daytonas with 2.2 Turbos, Dodge Chargers, Shadow VNTs, and the Shelby mutants. And no, a differential does NOT make up for equal length half-shafts, despite what Daimler-Chrysler claims.

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