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hippopotomoose:
ok so are the FF truly faster for the average driver on a course like special stage #11 than FR?
GrayGhost:
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You're both wrong. First off, FWD can oversteer. However, there aren't any FWD cars that do oversteer. Secondly, oversteer is overrated. It's an easy way for your typical wannabe to get in serious trouble. (See Dale Earnhardt Jr., who can't frigging drive.) The reason FWDs understeer is to keep the newbies out of trouble. Or into trouble, more frequently.
If I am going racing, and I am serious about it, I want -neutral- handling. I do not want oversteer or understeer, I want the car to go where I point it. At most I want a very very small and finite amount of oversteer if I need to power through certain turns.
If you guys wnat to see some real drifting, watch the WRC guys. Now here's an interesting fact for you - those cars are 4WD, and have very neutral handling under throttle, generally speaking. Yet they can swing a hairpin going through the whole thing sideways. How? Braking. WRC cars have three pedals, and none of them is a clutch. One throttle, then front and rear brakes are split. The slides they pull are induced purely by braking either heavily in the front or rear to produce the desired effect. If I'm going for a left hairpin, I'll want to brake hard front to get the car into a nosedive. If I hit a spot with no traction, I'm in trouble. So I get off the brakes after the nose is down, start swinging the wheel, and mash the rears to break traction. They pull straight with the front wheels before the rear wheels start putting power down.
So can a FWD drift? Yes. The thing is that it requries two major components; very specific suspension geometry, and a lot of torque. Anything made by Honda lacks both. Especially torque. How do you do it? You point the wheels the direction you wanna go. Brake hard to nose dive, snap the ebrake to dump your rear traction, and get hard on the throttle right away. Only one problem - you need equal length half shafts. Otherwise you're going to dorksteer into the nearest (ditch,wall,car.) If you're looking for equal length half-shafts, the list is short. Dodge Daytonas with 2.2 Turbos, Dodge Chargers, Shadow VNTs, and the Shelby mutants. And no, a differential does NOT make up for equal length half-shafts, despite what Daimler-Chrysler claims.
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hehe I have mentioned that previous.. 'lack of oversteer' - in otherwords 'balance' in my last post. I'm not sure about the equal lenght half shafts but I know I can get my cars ass out with a little left foot braking to transfer weight to the front. NO EBRAKE... I know lots of cars cant do this but w/e. o I drive a mazdaspeed protege. and yes I'm eagerly awaiting the next releases! but they are super quality so I dont want a rush job ;)
thork:
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... yes I'm eagerly awaiting the next releases! but they are super quality so I dont want a rush job ;)
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Exactly, better to wait longer and get the same amazing quality fansub job as they have been doing.
Patience is virtue! :D
Importkitz:
I've downloaded the RAW version of episodes 5 & 6. I've watched it about 20 times now. I want to know what they are saying... :'(
I watch the 6th episode everynight now before I go to bed.
Whats taking so long? Is there anything I can help with?
Just to let you know...I dont speak or understand Japanese. I wish I did... :(
BUT besides that...I love your work and keep it up.
Hex:
/me twiddles thumbs whilst waiting for the staffing problems to sort themselfs out, then goes and re-watches ep's 1-4 again to remind my self its high qualty work and worth the wait. :)
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