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KillJoy:
--- Quote ---okay so the 180sx is not a Sylvia, but is the 240sx only a Sylvia in Japan
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Australia imports Silvia's as well the Silvia. They don't re-badge the cars or anything like that. I image most countries that are right hand driver groups can import the Silvia with much more ease than here in the U.S.
I have a 1997 240SX which is the S14 body style in Japan, and while in Australia I saw it badged both as a 200SX and as a Silvia depending on what was under the hood. Now I think they have 200SX and Silvias with slightly different bodies though I would have to check.
tooocool49723:
The 180sx is not a silvia, your talking RPS13 (180sx) VS S13 (silvia). The difference is in the front end, the hatch, and the engine.
Now, the 240sx is basically a one-via (front end of 180sx and rear end of a silvia). Much like the Sil-Eighty, which was the exact opposite combination (front of a silvia, rear of a 180).
Some Japaneese car guys/drifters first came up with these 2 cars (onevia and sileighty) because when they crashed their cars into the mountain side, it was cheaper to replace the expensive pop up headlights with the silvia's front end. From this, some guys did the opposite to be different and replaced the front end of their siliva with the 180sx's pop up front. Nissan saw this and apparently thought it was a good idea, and they produced the 240sx and the sileighty (although the sileighty was sold in very small numbers and is now a collectors car, you can tell a real sileighty because it's printed on the rear quarter glass and on the center between the tail lights).
The difference of the 240sx being that the motor was the 2.4L KA24DE. (essentially a truck motor)
Now, these three cars are completely different, except for the base unibody and some interior pieces.
KillJoy:
At least it is a tuned truck motor. It does have more bottom end torque for it too. The route few people bother to take yet gives more hp than a silvia conversion is to take your 2.4L and supercharge it with the guts redone to take the abuse. There is a guy running almost 500hp out of his and the torque is more. best of all you don't have to wait for parts to come in from Japan.
The silvia is still a traditionally wonderful car with perfect balance and poise. I want one if I get the chance, but I doubt I would build one out of my 240, as I can do so much with the 4 grand I would spend on motor, tranny and frabrication time to get it to work with my wiring.
tooocool49723:
RB26DETT + RB25 Transmission = BEAST
Anyway, you said you had a 97, that's the S14A correct (round headlights?). Ever gotten a little sideways in it? (evil grin)
In all actuality, my statement about the truck motor was wrong, the truck motor is made in mexico and the 240 motor is made in japan. There are a few other differences (such as the truck motor being single cam, and the 240 motor being made in both a single and dual cam setup). I'll also agree that when done correctly, a KA can be a very strong motor. The only thing about a KA that makes most guys swap in a SR is that the SR or even the CA or RB motors were all meant to be turbocharged, and therefore have internals to support it. The KA was an N/A motor and as such needs a lot more put into it to be reliable under boost.
...yeah, i have a nismo shirt and hat...
...and i drive a subaru... lol
Supra_Saiyan:
australia never got the s13 series silvias
we had the s12s sold here as nissan gazelles
skipped the s13s
had the s14s badged as 200sx with the sr20det
had the s15s badged as 200sx with the sr20det
however, s13s are one of the most common imports. Â i have a friend with a 1990 ca18det 180sx and another friend with a 1993 180sx with a red top sr20det.
http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=1958948¤t_rec=1&total_rec=2&sort_type=&make_id=5&model_id=266&state_id=1&search_distance=25
^ my friends 180 with the ca18 making roughly 180kw at the rear wheels. (around 240rw hp)
too bad he is selling it soon. :(
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