Topic: Initial D 4th Stage comments... - Archive Topic (Locked)

[CooBlueDAB]

Im game for that, lets do it.  What have you found? Besides the Godlike control that no one I have ever seen has lol....

[Brokenimage0]

well Tsuchiya has control prety close to that. but over all ive watched the whole thing from stage 1 ep one to stage 4 ep 12 once but stage 1-3 ive watched like 5 times a piece. My most favorite fake thing is Ryosukes impossible analyses skills....who can tell  
exactly what happened from only a guy on a walkie talkie and the exhaust notes? i dont know anyone. And why would you be unable to put an ALS on a street car(that specific one) i would like to know.

[hellbent]

Because an ALS system destroys the engine,When the driver lifts his foot from the gas pedal the ignition  timing is altered with sometimes 40° or more of delay (retard) and the intake air and fuel supply mixture is made richer. basically it sends unburned gases through the inlet. heres some points why it cant
   
   * A quick rise of the turbocharger's temperature (which jumps from ~800°C to the 1100°C+ region) whenever the system is activated
   * A huge stress on the exhaust manifold and pipes (mounted on a street car a bang-bang system would destroy the exhaust system within 50-100 km)
   *The turbo produces significant boost even at engine idle speeds
   *The explosions which occur in the exhaust tubes generate important flames which can, sometimes,  be seen at the end of the exhaust tube
   *Reduced engine brake
see thats why. Thats the reason why WRC cars change their engine after every rally. Anyway ALS is now old-school, a new method of keeping the turbine spinning is hitting the scene, Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR), its much forgiving on mechanical parts than ALS. But hey u can never get tired of the ALS going off (what a sweet sound).
Anybody who says they have a real ALS system on their car is BS, just not possible, maybe ur engine will last for say 100-300km max.

sry for the long post

[CooBlueDAB]

hrm, then someone could... have it on the street... if they had deeeep pockets.. like it seems most people in the series do.....

Grrr.... College owns me now.. will post my info on what ive seen when I get a good amount of work done.. I may not be doing a report on clinical medicine like Ryo... but I am doing something just as hard lol....

[hellbent]

U would have to be stupid to get ALS on street, besides its illegal, go watch rally live, and see how loud it is. As for me, I would go with EGR, though I can still  get a suzuki ALS for $15000, yeah they cost that much.

[Yoten]

Let's see... sidestep all the mindless anti-America ranting that has nothing to do with this... here we go.

If that's so, why does the US have the biggest amount of legal court casings over TV rights and other added rights (Movies included, though most for piracy), than any other country on the planet?

You'd have to be more specific than that, though doing so probably makes this more off-topic than it's already been led. Anyway, the U.S. has the most legal court cases with probably everything, seeing as how so many morons like to sue.

From what I've read, most are over censorship of shows shown on TV that were put in time slots aimed when children could watch them, and would be deemed by the "rational" household unsuitable for children.

Correct. We have rather heavy censorship laws when it comes to children's television. So yeah, the shows you'll see airing on Fox Kids, the WB, and to a lesser degree on Cartoon Network have been extensively altered. When those children's shows are brought to DVD, those DVDs remain censored as there is no perceived market for uncensored ones (not to mention it'd alienate the market they already DO have). If a program shows promise, it may get a dual release of censored and uncensored DVDs ala Dragon Ball Z. Anyway, that's always been the case and is nothing to dispute over.

However, there are almost NO cases where DVDs for series that have not been broadcasted on television have been cut, and in the past even small forms of editing (such as english-language overlays/replacements of onscreen text) have been met with severe criticism and are usually corrected in future re-releases. You implying that a majority of our DVDs are censored, and even listing Ninja Scroll as an example, is nothing but a out-and-out lie,  one that I see you're conveniently not mentioning anymore. I doubt Pokemon was in your little list.

(audio/video quality stuff)

Fine, we'll chalk this up to differing opinions. I frankly see room for improvement (video-wise) in both fansubs and the DVDs (to a lesser extent) since I'm anal like that, but whatever floats your boat.

That's it. Funny, the Australians friends I have are generally cheerful people...

[CooBlueDAB]

please stop feeding the cousin of the troll... Mr. Lawn Gnome... We dont like him very much either...

[Yoten]

Which one am I again? I lose track...

[Usagi_Yojimbo]

ooh ooh, can I be an ogre..... what are we playing.......

[JC]

We normally are cheerful people, untill we get annoyed.

I'm just going to leave it... Sorry to all the decent people there, and to Yoten who copped most of it... Just had to make a point, some someone bit back, probably a little more than could be chewed by both.

[Brokenimage0]

so thats why thats about what i came to but i didnt have all teh points on the ALS heck i would through a small shot or NOS to spool if i had heavy turbo lag but even that would require more cash than i have

[DARCnarc]

and yoten reckoned JC was ranting 8@P

GO THE SKYLINE!!  

[icecold]

First i have a question about the rally ALS.
They run their rallys in up to 500km rallys broken down to like 15 stages, but the thing is after everystage they dont change the engine for there is a big factor of time.

And if you had a little bit of turbo lag, i suggest putting a smaller turbo with your bigger turbo. The smaller one spools up faster so it is basically anti lag. Also if you were using that small shot of nitrous you could literally blow up one of your pistons. Plus it all depends on the engine block you have. The cast iron behomeths that Toyota made for the supra are god when it comes to engines but you can still find a decent four banger that comes cast iron.

[CooBlueDAB]

Eh, with proper tuning, turbo lag can be taken care of... a smaller turbo pushing it's max, vs a large one pushing a lower spec end of its ability... Its all about what your max power is going to be, what can your block take..   Dual turbo Can help.. a lot... but it is VERY expensive and hard to tune to be useful... Now I have not done it, I dont know how to do it, but among the tuners I listen to, it is a general rule of thumb that dual stage is only woth it when you are at the pinnacle of racing and every tiny bit is worth it reguardless of time and money.

[Elchfaenger]

First i have a question about the rally ALS.
They run their rallys in up to 500km rallys broken down to like 15 stages, but the thing is after everystage they dont change the engine for there is a big factor of time.

Well THEY have exhausts, turbos etc. that resist the massive heat for 500km! Normal racers dont...

And if you had a little bit of turbo lag, i suggest putting a smaller turbo with your bigger turbo. The smaller one spools up faster so it is basically anti lag. Also if you were using that small shot of nitrous you could literally blow up one of your pistons. Plus it all depends on the engine block you have. The cast iron behomeths that Toyota made for the supra are god when it comes to engines but you can still find a decent four banger that comes cast iron.

Smaller turbo=less pressure? Well, if you mean an sequential turbo... maybe this would help. But the ALS is surely the best and most radical solution for them, because they dont have to care about noise or air pollution and wear and tear of their material.