Topic: Initial D 4th Stage comments... - Archive Topic (Locked)

[hellbent]

hmm, seems I was a bit hursh, didnt mean to offend anyone. Anyway. that post I did explanining ALS was copy and paste found through google, not my mistake. Anyway, ragarding Elchfaenger, U are right, I went back and watched again, seems it was a damaged wheel. About the auto thing, K seems people were right, but what do u expect from 4 beers, Red Bull vodka, and Captain Morgan.

Okay, back to the game, another thing wrong with ID, the god-like car controls, those damn kids have.

[JC]

Seen rally cars on the road heaps of times, going between stages, whole heap of them went through the tunnel late last year in Perth, caused a few surprises when three evo's and an MY98 pop out of the tunnel and get air on the way over the overpass just outside the tunnel.

They're light as hell, and much with the fun to drive >

That turbo isn't all that big, but then again, I wouldn't want to see an evo or a wrx with a GReddy T88 strapped to it (Think of the lag kiddies) (Sidenote: MY98 (1998) WRX STi, came shipped stock in Australia with a GReddy T66 turbo, making for 205Kw (275hp) at the wheels, the most powerful PRODUCTION WRX STi to date!)

There is a ex WRX STi rally modified car at one of the Subaru dealerships in town, and if you get the right sales person to talk to, they tell you quite a bit about how it's all set up (And they DON'T give out dyno sheets, I asked!)

EDIT: After talking to my mechanic friend, he's given me some pointers as to how Ryousuke could estimate fairly accurately the hp of the R32, and it's nothing to do with the exhaust, but the short race beforehand. It's all to do with the power of the FC3S, acceleration and so on, plus observing the car behind you, how easily it can keep up, turning, down to the basic motion of the car. After going on a circuit race with him once, I realised just how accurate even his handling of the car is, but he's build his car to suit him, almost from the ground up, and has been driving now for over 8 years, so the handling shown in ID is possible in real life, all factors aside... All it takes is practice! /EDIT

[Dapprman]

ALS is legal on UK street cars, as the MOT test wouldn't touch it (our annual car safety check).  All rally cars that do road sections, or ahve to drive on public roads between stages Must be road legal, which is why now a number of rally drivers have been done on the UK roads for such things as missing wheels.

I do know of two fellow FD3 driers who tried ALS software on their cars.  Neither engine lasted very long.  If you think it's bad on a 4-cylinder boinger, then you ought to see what it does to a rotary engine.

If you want real race car noises from your engine, then go for a bridge-port, just don't expect the car to be particularly easy to drive around town.

[Brokenimage0]

I like cheese.

[JC]

Y'know... If you put ALS on an already tough block (4AGZE SII for example - Toyota's Supercharged 1.6L 16V for those who don't know the codes), then it shouldn't be all that bad. Main advantages of doing it with that sort of block (Without the supercharger, it'll melt for sure) is that the pistons are ceramic coated, so they have much better heat tolerance and the like.

I have seen a 20btt (Rotary Twin Turbo), go up to over 1000hp, without an ALS, but it didn't last very long either (Wasn't the mods, it was the application... Drag car), but Rotary engines arn't the strongest blocks around.

[Usagi_Yojimbo]

I like cheese.

Word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brokenimage0]

Why would you take a supercahrger off a supercharged engine =P they rock. I like them alot more than turbos. and since while enjoying rally videos and yet not being a big ralyl fan i didnt know much about it. i think i learned more about it in the past few posts then when i acctually looked for the stuff.=P

[OfTheSin]

Why would you take a supercahrger off a supercharged engine =P they rock.

its all a matter of preference in my opinion.  If you like high torque before mid rev's then i would argue that a SC would be more usefull to you than a Turbo.  However, same exact setup, only difference being the Turbo or SC, in high revs would most likely promote higher torque coming from the turbo.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120

They did a test on that exact thing, the results displayed were rather interesting.  Check it out.

-ots

[Usagi_Yojimbo]

http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/58078/
or you can do like this...., have you're supercharger feeding a turbo

[OfTheSin]

That is also true.  Which is veeeeeeeery nice.

I'd do it.  Check out this:

http://www.hilmersson-racing.com/start.asp?show=ec

Gives you the exact reason why running both would be a very nice thing to do...if you have teh cash for it.

[Elchfaenger]

Now this is great, an old Manta chassis and a Volvo engine! Didnt know you could squeeze so much power out of it! Maybe i should work a bit on my own Volvo? ;)But they are kinda crazy, using a truck turbo charger...

[EvoHo]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=127361&highlight=Supercharger

that's an evo with a supercharger feeding a turbocharger because the guy lives in Denver and due to the high altitude, the large turbo won't function as well without a supercharger feeding it....pretty tight imo, i wish i had the cash to pop that on my evo

[JC]

Personally, I like superchargers, but not a roots or a centrifugal.... Twin screw!

My car's in the process of being slowly modified to have a 800hp+ Whipple Blower (Designed for big 5.7L - 8L (I'm sure you can work out the cc's yourselves, or learn what a Litre is ) V8's, and I'm putting this on a Inline 6 RB30E (R31 Skyline engine), after it's been highly tuned and had a RB25DE head put on it (Making it an RB30DE, Duel overhead cam, Electronic Fuel Injection), then the supercharger...

Best of all, it'll all be street legal, with the blower on a missile switch to turn it on and off (You can have a supercharger off, start driving, and turn it on at will, provided you reinforce the block enough).

I'm crazy, I know, but so are most aussies

EDIT: Whipple blowers are good for up to 30PSI of pressure, which is just over two times the earths atmosphere /EDIT

[Dapprman]

Driving along you'll sound like a WW2 fighter plane \00/

[JC]

Not much different from what it is now, just a bit louder due to a revised exhaust system (2 1/2 inch all the way through, two hi flow exhausts, hi flow cat)

Whipple blowers don't make much sound compaired to other blowers... Just that I'll need a blow off valve with the pressure between shifts (Needing a Supra 6 speed gearbox else it'll munch it very quickly)

Also, that one with the evo and high altitude... What does altitude have to do with a turbo spooling up? They operate by the exhaust pressure, thus spinning to force feed the air into the engine... He doesn't NEED a supercharger on it, he just wanted to look cool The advantage of the supercharger is  with it on a low boost, it means that the turbo, regardless of if it's extremely large or not, spool up quickly at low RPMS due to the high pressure of the exhaust gasses from the supercharger rapidly force feeding it from the moment the engine rpms climb above idle (Or if he really wants to be smart/stupid, depending on your view of his well being if he dumps it or not, can have it boosting at idle... Not very smart!).