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What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« on: September 07, 2004, 08:40:00 am »
With all the attention that Initial D is getting this group, I would like to get some feedback on what kind of car Forum members are driving.

list the year, make, model, trim level

ie.  1998 VW Jetta GLS
or  2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R


I'll start things off.

2003 Mazda Protege5

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 11:15:17 pm »
1993 240SX SE Coupe (S13, One-Via)


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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 12:34:53 am »
I don't, I can't even drive! :o


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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2004, 04:55:51 am »
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I don't, I can't even drive! :o

They just want to start this thread so they can brag about their overpriced, expensive status symbols, what pieces of junk modern cars are.  I have a pig (cavy) that gets from point A to point B faster than most autos today, esp. when you consider traffic.  Seriously vehicles today the big thing is designs and styling, not functionality, reliability, driveability.  People look at a car and they say 'ooh that looks nice I want it' but in reality the piece of crap.  Anything you'd drive off a lot today has barely any power, front wheel drive, handles poorly around the corners, poor traction, a glut of 'features' you will never really use, unreliable (no redundant systems or backup embedded computer), high center-of-gravity, poor visibility, uses plastic (not steel), and weighs half a ton more than it should.  The worst part about the reliability is that modern cars have an embedded computer (PC-104 or other single-board computer) and if that fails your car is hosed (be ready to pay $10,000. to the manufacturer to replace a $300. PC board).  

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2004, 06:27:59 am »
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They just want to start this thread so they can brag about their overpriced, expensive status symbols, what pieces of junk modern cars are.  barely any power, front wheel drive, handles poorly around the corners, poor traction, a glut of 'features' you will never really use. 


That was not my attention in the slightest.

I was just curious.


A Mazda Protege5 is not a "status symbol" car, it's a 4 cylinder Station wagon for cripes sake...

although it does handle very, very well. ;D
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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2004, 12:36:06 pm »
I drive a crappy 97 accord. its very beat up transmission is pretty bad to; its an automatic and it stalls out while going 60 on the highway i have to pop it into neutral and restart the car. Its probably from all the neutral bombs i did. and pulling the brake and running over curbs while going 50 mph. getting a new car soon hopefully an infiniti G35 coupe

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2004, 02:40:14 pm »
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2004, 07:27:16 pm »
ahahahaha i got all yall beat!  i drive a TiLite titanium wheelchair.  the TTC model ty.  twin tube cantilever design.  what does that mean folks? tons of strength without the bulky weight (total weight of the chair is 18lbs compared to my last one which was 50lbs).  i also have maco tires which are made of solid rubber and the spokes are a spider design (they were gonna be red but my order god screwed up :( )  sex on wheels baby.  turns on a dime and oh yeah my front wheels flash when i roll :P
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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2004, 11:19:10 pm »
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That was not my attention in the slightest.

I was just curious.

A Mazda Protege5 is not a "status symbol" car, it's a 4 cylinder Station wagon for cripes sake...

although it does handle very, very well. ;D

You can say that now but one week from now you will look at this thread say 'oh no look what I started.'

I honestly don't see how a FWD car can 'handle well', I have driven my share of rentals (business trips) and I am yet to come across anything FWD where you didn't have to struggle to get it to corner well.  The honda civic (2001) was the only thing I found that could turn and even that was below average, modern cars are second rate, they are nothing but a bunch of performance compromises to keep the manufacturing cost down and the styling 'looking good'.   Performance and handling are things of the past, now the big push is for styling, image, 'the look', things that drive the weight up and the handling / performance down, yawn.

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2004, 10:11:06 am »
Damn man, that's a really crappy ride.... before you junk it consider selling it to me though ;D

Oh, hi SD, looks like the delay of 4th Stage eps brought you here too huh :p
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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2004, 07:56:28 pm »
HAH I like car threads anyway.

I use to drive an 85 Ford Bronco II, all steel.  The original meaning of death metal.
I now drive an 95 Jeep Cherokee Country. Thank god.

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2004, 07:09:17 pm »
Until 3 Months ago I was driving a 14 year old Ford escort, the horror  :-/ .

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2004, 12:59:29 am »
ok akira...my family (5 people at the time) piled into a 1989 (i think that was the year) ford escort gt and drove the damn thing across the whole united states and the 2 yrs after we arrived in ny it started having engine trouble  but damn that car was a resilient little fuck...
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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2004, 07:33:30 am »
me drives a protege 5 as well i can't say it handles like a dream car but i can't i say it handles poorly either.  

As for sindobook, i don't know much about cars and nor do i have your experience probably but i think what epox was getting at is that it handles well for a 4 cylinder erm...wagon (hatchback sounds more appealing =P) but ya it's got a low center of gravity which helps the feel.  And if you haven't driven it how can you be SURE? :)

now i much rather have AWD or RWD....but you get what you get.....i wouldn't want to trade my p5 for another affordable FWD rite now.  (AFFORDABLE = on a poor uni student who doesn't like to ask parents for TOO much, standard).  But if you got suggestions i'm open to it too :P

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Re: What Kind of Car do you Drive?
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2004, 09:08:56 am »
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Seriously vehicles today the big thing is designs and styling, not functionality, reliability, driveability.  People look at a car and they say 'ooh that looks nice I want it' but in reality the piece of crap.


Nonsense, if you are going to make outrageous blanket statements, you could at least attempt to ground yourself in reality by citing facts.


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Anything you'd drive off a lot today has barely any power, front wheel drive, handles poorly around the corners, poor traction, a glut of 'features' you will never really use.


Hence the term "Economy Car" and "Fully loaded Economy car".  If you don't like Economy cars, then don't buy one.  For most people, they are a means to get around cheaply and efficently.  


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no redundant systems or backup embedded computer


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The worst part about the reliability is that modern cars have an embedded computer (PC-104 or other single-board computer) and if that fails your car is hosed (be ready to pay $10,000. to the manufacturer to replace a $300. PC board).  



I'm guessing you work in the computer industry, because you sound like an IT man, definatley not a backyard mechanic.  ECU failures account for an insignifigant percentage of failures in modern vehicles. Redundant systems aren't necessary, as ECU's are simply not prone to failure. Out of every single person I know, including a Canada wide 80s/90s Toyota club that I'm a member of, the only faulures I've seen have been from people tampering with the ECU or from hackjob rewiring, in any case it was the owner's fault.  

Since you seem to feel that EFI is not a viable means of fuel management What do you suggest?  Should we go back to using carburators?  And what, throw 20 years of progress towards clearner burning, more efficent engines into the gutter.  Anyone who has owned a carburated car will tell you that reliability is not one of it's high points.  The other alternative to EFI would be Mechanical Fuel Injection like the old Bosch K-Jetronic system, however while they tended to be somewhat accurate, they have the same shortfalls of carburation, like the inability to adjust fuel curves and ignition timing based on temperature and atmospheric conditions.

Simply put EFI is infinately more reliable than Carburation or Mechanical FI.  



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high center-of-gravity, poor visibility, uses plastic (not steel), and weighs half a ton more than it should.


Most 'import' vehicles have vastly different suspension settings for the American market than they do for the European and Japanese markets.  Its well known in the automotive industry that American's prefer extremely soft, nonresponsive rides and slow, effortless steering ratios.   Drive a European Corolla if you want to see what I mean, the ride is firmer and much more confidence inspiring than the US model.   As for visibility, that is on a per model basis.

A note on vehicle weight, cars are becoming safer and safer each year.  Unfortunately for enntheusiasts, this means that they are also becoming heavier.  As for your plastics statement, this is totally off the wall.  Find me a car that uses plastics in it's unibody chassis and I'll find you a magical flying ape that can grant wishes.  Plastics are often used as bumper skins due to the fact that they don't dent in low speed collisions, but NEVER on anything structural.

Anyhow it would seem to me that you have been fed a glut of nonsense by someone who has a serious hate-on for the autmotive industry.  
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