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Yugami:
So today I was on the Live-evil channel for the second time, the first time I was there was to download Blood+ ep1 last week. I go to the xdcc site and copy the messages to ask for xdcc lists from the bots, and of course as with many xdcc lists the message to request a file/list has a "(" right before it so I can't highlight the "/" in the message without highlighting other crap, so I highlight and copy everything but the "/" and prepare to type that in myself. Well, I did that then realized that I needed the list name, so I pasted again and typed the list name at the end...forgetting to type in the "/" on this paste. Well for that apparently I get immediately banned from the channel for good. Too bad.

I decide that it was only a stupid mistake and I want to go back in and try again. I also didn't know it was such a serious offense or I would've been more careful. I switch over to wireless internet and reconnect. I have just enough time to get an xdcc list before I'm banned again. I switch to a different wireless network (I'm on a college campus btw...) and am able to connect once again. This time for a bit longer, enough time to get the xdcc lists I was trying to get. I then see this message in the chat:

<Cadmere> msg L-E|MachineCommanderRobo xdcc list

I thought that was kinda funny because that's the exact same thing I did (except I actually had the list name which means I'm less of a noob), but this guy doesn't get banned for it. I then say:

> Oh shoot, Cadmere copy/pasted wrong you gonna ban him too?

Probably a pretty stupid thing to say, completely blowing whatever cover I might've had. I am then responded to with:

<Lumiere> Yay: I didn't see it
<Lumiere> therefore it never happened
* You were kicked by Lumiere (ban evasion == death... one more evasion and I report you to etg staff)

I tried to go on some friend's computers and connect (which I guess is an offense that == death) but to no avail. So apparently my whole school (University of the Pacific) is now banned from your channel. Whatever though, I doubt anybody else on campus would've used it anyways. Also, I would've been sharing the file on our school file sharing network so I'm sort of a bot I'd say. I guess I'll just have to wait for other groups to sub this. I'm sure they have admins that are a lot less egotistic than the one I encountered in this group channel. Sorry for my spam guys, It must have been such a big blow to the community considering I got exiled for it.

Oh, and I would get it off of BitTorrent but my school has it blocked.

Edit: Oh haha, just found out this is on baka-upload. Guess I won't need to be visiting your channel anymore anyways. Sorry about the spam...and thanks for the subs.

Yugami:
Oh, and just a suggestion, if you want to stop the "annoying" copy/paste issues then maybe you should do what other sites have done and have button that copies the line to the clipboard, or make it so the " /msg blahblah xdcc list " doesn't have any characters immediately before/after it. That might be a nicer and more effective way to stop most of the spam (including mine...).

gumbaloom:
Well I was asleep when this incident occurred but I can say the following -

1) Ban evasion is looked upon VERY dimly. Attempting to evade a ban only increases it's length. If you get banned for any reason wait a couple of hours before trying to rejoin.
2) I've removed the *.*@*.pacific.edu
3) The channel can be very frenetic and during times of major releases the level of control by chan ops needs to be increased to ensure that everyone leeches in an efficient manner and things don't get out of control.
4) I don't have the time / energy to main such leecher friendly XDCC list pages and neither does our website admn. That's why in mirc you have a status window eg the one that says enterthegame on it. If you're not a confident leecher and rely on copy paste then you should type all your commands THERE and not in the channel window. That way there is no risk of any accidents happening.

-gumbaloom

Yugami:
Yeah, I really wouldn't normally try to get back on after being banned like that, but honestly I didn't feel bad because I got banned for such a retarded reason, esp. after seing somebody else do the same exact thing as me and not get banned.

darnold767:
I am totally confused about the commands, the names and syntax are totally unintuitive.  There should be a simple process such as:

!list
!download <filename>

none of the /msg xdcc list  blah blah blah.

I don't even recognize these commands or formats and I have no idea what is right or wrong or why?

Could somebody tell me what are the correct commands to type to get a list of files and then the correct command to type to start downloading a file?

PLEASE ADVISE ME because I hate this ban situation. I have no idea what I did wrong, I just cut and paste and my window was killed before I could even see what I pasted.

Dave

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