Well, my rules were based on the old staff's suggestions regarding what should be put so it means they're stupid. (well yeah few are, no doubt >_>). Plus people are banned for NOT DOING ANYTHING, that is, undeserved ban. I remember you said you banned someone because he insulted you. I was like, 'Okay, that's a reason cause he was insulted so yeah ban for a while'. BUT he pmed me back with the details and I read up the log and apparently he did nothing. ~_~
<Tsubie> But he said you insulted him and you shouldn't be insulting ops you know.
<Raiten> I didn't PM him anything insulting ><.
<Raiten> The whole story was I suddenly got banned for no reason and I whispered bastard once after getting banned twice by him with, "what did I do wrong to recieve a ban?"
<Raiten> He never replied and just left me banned.
<Raiten> I never insulted him once in the channel
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Anyways, let me post a log of an underserved ban by someone else:
(16:36:36) (Mamo-chan) nu uh.
(16:36:39) (Mamo-chan) good bye
(16:46:48) (Mpy) I was never banned in #live-evil
(16:49:22) (Mamo-chan) oh but you were >_>
(16:49:35) (Mamo-chan) damn you cloning aussies
(16:49:38) (Mpy) I understand what you are thinking.
(16:49:40) —› Delaying paste of (10) lines/(837) bytes for (2) second(s) per line! Type /sp to stop!
(16:49:42) (Mpy) (Thang) @find 82DA4482
(16:49:44) (Mpy) —› mode: (Mamo-chan) sets mode (+b *!*@CPE-155-143-91-120.vic.bigpond.net.au)
(16:49:46) (Mpy) —› This (*!*@CPE-155-143-91-120.vic.bigpond.net.au) ban affects: (Thang)
(16:49:48) (Mpy) —› kick: (Thang) was kicked by (Mamo-chan) (no @find allowed)
(16:49:50) (Mpy) —› mode: (banania) sets mode (+b *!*Rk_UsEr@*.bigpond.net.au)
(16:49:52) (Mpy) (@bastard-sama) mamo
(16:49:58) —› Pasting finished after (18) seconds
(16:50:00) (Mamo-chan) dont spam me
(16:50:04) (Mamo-chan) i'll keep that ban
(16:50:14) (Mpy) That person was from victoria and I'm from NSW.
(16:50:24) (Mpy) You may whois me.
(16:50:39) (Mamo-chan) you a girl or guy?
(16:50:48) (Mpy) I'm a guy.
(16:50:53) (Mamo-chan) ok.. ban stays
(16:50:56) (Mamo-chan) shoulda said girl
So yeah, banning for disobeying rules is okay. And if it's a stupid rule, a short ban. Frankly I think for trivial mistakes like smal insults, a kick is enough unless it persists. All in all, whenever we do ban, we should have a reason for banning so that it doesn't look outright unfair. Talk about corruption.
-Tsubasa