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Xagest:
Hey there.  Since TC finished it's first season, it has gone pretty quiet lately.  I figured that since it's over, it's time that we do a bit of rigorous analysis of the series.  Feel free to ask questions, write comments, or provide counter arguments.  Now, for the first topic...

Tsubasa Chronicle: Chobits no Kororo or Hearts of the Persocoms

***Warning - May contain spoilers of Tsubasa Chronicle (anime and manga), Chobits, and Clover***

One of the fun things TC has done was bring back some of our old favorite characters from various Clamp classic.  This was explained through the idea that people with the same soul/heart can exist in many worlds.  For example, Sakura from TC and Sakura from Card Captor Sakura would have the same soul.  They are different, because they grew up in different worlds, but the core of their nature is the same.

This brings us to an interesting problem.  On a few occasions, we've come across several characters from Chobits, a story a young man and his Persocom (equivalent to an android).  In particular, we've seen Chii in the first episode, and Sumomo and Kotoko in the last half of TC.

Because of their appearance in another world (in which case we assume that they have organic bodies), would it be logical to assume that they have souls?  If they do, would it follow that their non-human counterparts (Persocoms) also have souls?  This is actually a really complex debate concerning Chobits; whether or not the perfect persocom can be thought of as human, with true emotions of love.

If TC is considered cannon throughout the Clamp universe, we can almost be certain that if someone has a soul in one world, then that person would share the same soul if that person existed in another world (even in a non-human body).

Which brings us to another question.  Does Chii, Sumomo, and Kotoko have souls in the TC plotline?  It is implied that Fye was Chii's creator (if you've read the manga, this turns out to be actually the case).  Now we really can't be sure if TC-Chii has a soul at all.  But then, how do we explain Chii's existence in TC and Chobits?  Do they have the same soul?  Or is it possible that Chii was created in both worlds under the same cosmic influence (hitsuzen?).

This applies to Sumomo and Kotoko as well.  We can't be absolutely sure that Sumomo and Kotoko are human (they're huge and highly disproportionate, which makes them really really scary in my opinion).  Through this reasoning, it is just as likely that the Persocom characters don't have souls at all.

Let's throw another wrench into the mix.  Oruha hails from Clover, a manga series that Clamp released.  In Clover, Oruha is clearly human (or close to) and indeed has a soul.  However, Oruha in the world of Oto is not human.  In fact, she doesn't even have a body.  She's simply artificial intelligence built into a really cool video game.  We might infer from this that Oruha from Oto does indeed have a soul.  In fact, she has the same soul as Oruha from Clover.

With this, we might also say that Chii from Chobits indeed has a soul, along with Sumomo and Kotoko.

Sorry if this feels long.  It didn't come out as smoothly as I originally intended.  Anyway, I would love to hear your ideas and such, especially if you find holes in my reasoning and would like to provide a counterclaim.
One little extra thing I want to throw in:  Are Kudan souls/have souls?  The reappearance of Masayoshi's Kudan seems to point to yes...

EadTaes:
Here is a theory.

You agrre with em that each world has its onw particuler historya nd set of events that occured in each of those worlds prior to the point where they arrive. this means that anythign could happen to anyone of the characters or their anccestors in each world. thsi woudl mean in one world Chii migth not be born because her parents die or where never born them selves.

now add a very populur theory of Yin and Yan. That a balance must be maintained in the univers. In TRC thsi could be reflexted as characters that aren't born of natural birth are somehow created in that world by some other allthernate means. would those beign created not of natural birth share the same soul as the beign of natural birth in outher worlds i would sya yes since in this case it would be the worlds tryign to balance them selves out.

Brokenimage0:
or it could simply be that the balance is maintained in another way...two beings that exists in most worlds are also completely absent from 2 worlds that are not the smae to maintain another symblance of balance in that method, allowing one to exist in one world and not in the other and doing the same for another, does that make sense?

Cryostasis:
I think you're looking at this the wrong way. You said that people with the same soul/heart can exsist in many different worlds. Using Sakura as an example to justify that, both from TC and CCS are kind, innocent, altruistic and true to their emotions. However, they are still two different people raised two different ways. One is a school-girl who's active, energetic, and speaks her mind. The other is a princess who is quiet, withheld, yet eternally trusting. So, although they are different people, you can see how one, raised in the other's world, would turn out the same as the other. right?

Ok, I ran in circles there, but just keep that in mind. If a person turns out to be a certain kind of person regardeless of upbringing and enviroment, it's logical to assume that they share the same heart/soul, or that the soul is a direct and major influence on the evolution of a person. As such, that person, in two completely different worlds, would be able to think and act the same way. If they think and act the same way, their imaginations would be the same, if not closely simmilar than. right?

Ok, my point is coming out. You said that Fye was implied as the creator of Chii. If so, than is it not understandable that two different fye's from two different woulds could have simply created Chii the same because that's how his mind/imagination works? I wouldn't call that balance, I'd call that inevidability.

The same holds true for Tsumomo and Kotoko. They were characters in a game, so their creator simpl used their models as it came to his/her mind, the same way the Laptop persocoms were created in Chobits. Now I have nothign against Chii or her having a soul, but this should proove that she doesn't need one to appear in multiple worlds.

This brings up another issue though, following my trail of thought obviously. Chii in Chobits really did have a soul, I believe. However, since she was a creation, than her soul was created as well. Now, if Fye from TC created a Chii with a soul as well, than that Chii would closely resemble the Original Chii, as much so as a person with his counterpart. However, since their souls were created indevidually within their own specific universe, would they still share the soul?

Somehow this brings me to another trail of thoughts. If the same person from different worlds really does share a soul, what happens if they meet? What would happen if Fye or Kurogane or Syaoran appeared in a world that they existed in allready? Einstein said that a person cannot be in two different places at the same time. Now this applied to time travel, yes, but with a sharing of the soul, wouldn't it work the same in dimentional travel? If Sakura came to the CCS world, and met the CCS Sakura (assuming that they are the same person in different worlds) Would one of them dissapear? Would the universe end in a paradox? Would the CCS Sakura absorb the TC Sakuyra's feather instead, thus preventing the ultimate completion of their multi-dimentional quest to begin with? My head is spinning with possibilities. and I can't apply any of my time-travel theorums to understand it, because the multidimentional axis is completely perpendicular to the temporal one. Kuso!!! Not I've got to read through "The Number of the Beast" again. DAMN YOU ROBERT HEINLEIN!!!! THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST BOORING BOOKS I'VE EVER READ!!!!


....um.. what was I talking about again?

Xagest:
Well, the thing is that they are still different people, even though they share the same soul.  I have a feeling we might come across something like this sometime in the series (although I could be totally wrong).

Another thing we need to keep in mind is that time isn't consistent between worlds.  This is why Sakura's feather showed up in Spirit 300 years prior to their arrival, even though it was only a week or so since the adventure started.

This means that the two people with the same soul may not necessarily share it at the same time.  That's a sketchy sentence, as we can't really say what is "the same time".

We might also take into consideration of the prospect of reincarnation, or rather, the possibility that souls move between one body and the next.  It's possible that a soul might have found a persocon's body to be a suitable "vessel" to survive in.

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