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General => Current & Future L-E Projects => Topic started by: gumbaloom on October 11, 2005, 02:06:25 pm
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So whatchya think of our new show?
Discouss :o
-gumbaloom
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I'm going to have to download this now. I will hate you eternally if this is good. My computer cannot handle any more anime at the moment.
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i had big hopes when i heard that they were doing Blood in a tv series....
after the first episode i don't think i'll continue watching...
the monsters are the same.... the background is about the same...
but the girl, Saya, is now a cheerful girl.... wich is completely different from the ova... i loved the ova, but i couldn't get into the story and got bored pretty fast.. (checked on my laundry.. got my mail... made a phone call... all between the episode started and it ended (i did put it on pause while doing those))
i hope some people who watched and loved the OVA liked this... as for me.. i didn't..
Mishotaki out
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Okay, how often is this gonna be on?? I hate cliffhangers! I hate them!
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I loved Blood The Last Vamprie! (Manga and anime)
Thanks Gumbaloom and L-E staff!
- Prons
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It was pretty good but I hate the cliffhanger part. I'm going to have to see the OVA now cause I'm alittle interested to see how different the OVA is.
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I never heard about the OVA but I'm going to download this episode to see if the serie is worth watching. If I like it I guess I have found something to keep me entertained while waiting for TRC Season 2 (and maybe try to find the OVA).
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i like it .
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I think I'll end up liking it, but the file I got was beyond messed up. At 16:54 everytime I tried to play past that marker I would get a corrupted file. If I skipped past the marker however it would play just fine. At 21:20 the sound switched to some other random part of the episode (which was really horrible timing for that to happen) and the subs disappeared. Has anyone else had similar problems?
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I was finaly able to watch the episode and I have to say that I liked it and I'm going to follow this series.
The starting scene of the episode reminded me of Elfen Lied with all that slaugther.
Well, I guess that now I have to find the OVA to see the differences.
I would also like to now how often is this anime going to be released?
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it was decent...i will have to see more eps to decide...but odds are i will get hooked and enjoy it.
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It is not cute enough and should therefore be dropped.
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cute? interesting logic lol, :P ::focuses on making his own logic :huit: ::
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I like it. I wont judge it against the ova. Because it isn't really based off that. I like the new art direction Production I.G. went with. I like to see this fansub continued.
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My Review (no spoilers)...
I just finished Blood+ and, I must say, it exceeded my expectations. It's definitely cleaned up a LOT and lacks much originality in that department. The animation, however, is extremely smooth and quite pleasing to the eyes. The character designs are pleasing though slightly disappointing in comparison to the movie because it's difficult to see the Saya that we saw in the film when looking at this new Saya (and no, not just because of the short hair! hah). The other characters are extremely interesting though! The action scenes are superb and very well paced but the other scenes have some great dialogue and movements that really help to round out the characters - even in just the first episode - and it really makes you want to know more about them. The characters are also extremely likeable without getting annoying (opposed to most recent anime - when characters 'try to hard' to be likeable ::coughmaihimecough:: ). The music and sound is also superb (though I wasn't all to fond of the opening/closing themes - but they could grow on me). I look forward to a soundtrack definitely though because the underscore is great!
The story seems promising enough as long as the series doesn't succumb to that formuleaic structure that most action series do; and I look most forward to learning more about Saya's recent forgotten past.
One of the greatest things for my experience during this viewing, however, was anticipating how the events that occur in the first episode might tie into the events of the movie. While I understand the possibility that the writers might not choose to take this route, it's still extremely entertaining to contemplate the options pertaining to Saya's transformation from Saya of the film to Saya of the series.
I must say, I'm not very fond of Chizu Hashii's ending illustrations at all though.
I definitely recommend having watched the movie (OVA) before this series. It adds to the viewing experience! (Even though I recognize that the series is most likely unrelated.)
Blood+ gets an A+ from me (no pun intended).
As for Live-eviL's subbing, I think the subs were particularly great. I chose Live-eviL over Shinsen-Subs simply because I enjoyed seeing LE release something since I hadn't enjoyed a series fansubbed by LE since Wolf's Rain (not to mention LE was quicker to release than SS!). Some of the footnotes felt unnecessary, but I suppose that they may provide useful to some more than others.
One footnote observation, however: Cheiroptera are any form of mammalia whose forelimbs are fashioned like wings. This doesn't pertain solely to Eocene (bats). A cheiropteran is not always a bat while a bat is always a cheiropteran.
Certainly, you may already know this but I thought I'd point it out in case otherwise. Thanks, Live-eviL, for picking up this release!
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Now that I have finally seen the OVA I have to say that it really helps to understand better the series. And it seems that Blood+ takes place after Blood: the Last Vampire as a continuation of the OVA.
***SPOILERS: Watch the OVA before reading***
In the end of the OVA we can see a bomber flying, going to war and based on the time the OVA takes place we can safely assume that their refering to the Vietnam War. And then Blood+ starts with a scene on a village with a army and Saya killing everyone in sight. Obviously this takes place during the Vietnam War.
So, so far we can assume that after what happened at the military base in Last Vampire, Saya was sent to Vietnam to hunt the Chiropterans but something must have happened during the war that made Saya start killing humans. Then, between the opening scene of Blood+ and the rest of episode 1, they were able to stop Saya and her memory was erased, which could explain the difference in personallity that some of you are complaining about. But don't forget that at the end of episode 1 she tasted the blood of that guy and her eyes became red, which could mean that, sooner or later, the Saya from of the OVA will come back, even if just for some moments.
PS: I liked the OVA but really caugth me by surprise because I wasn't expecting to hear someone talk in english.
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I agree that it seemed to me that the OVA proceeds the TV series. I wonder if this is true or if the TV series is just an alternative not directly related.
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Okay...I've asked already but no one relied! How often is this on? Just wanna know how often we can expect the subs
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Ep 2 aired this morning (UK time)
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Thanks!
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i had big hopes when i heard that they were doing Blood in a tv series....
after the first episode i don't think i'll continue watching...
the monsters are the same.... the background is about the same...
but the girl, Saya, is now a cheerful girl.... wich is completely different from the ova... i loved the ova, but i couldn't get into the story and got bored pretty fast.. (checked on my laundry.. got my mail... made a phone call... all between the episode started and it ended (i did put it on pause while doing those))
i hope some people who watched and loved the OVA liked this... as for me.. i didn't..
Mishotaki out
The reason why Saya is more cheerful is because she doesn't know her past, if she did know she would be more gloomy.
You CANNOT judge a book by it's cover or it's first chapter. So I think this is going to be just as good or even better than the OVA.
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By the way, I am hooked on this anime ;D
Keep doing a good job Live Evil :)
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The reason why Saya is more cheerful is because she doesn't know her past, if she did know she would be more gloomy.
...I think this is going to be just as good or even better than the OVA.
I agree with both of those comments.
By the way I re-downloaded this show and the file I got was no longer corrupted. The first one I got from a bot on IRC (but could not remember which) and the second one I got via bit torrent (which would not fix the corrupted file).
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This is the first time I downloaded a BT from you guys. I was looking for trailers to Blood+ when I found a link to this site at fansub.tv so I thought to myself 'To hell with the trailers I'm watching the first episode!'
How does this relate to Blood The Last Vampire? Well, as I've seen the feature anime (OVA) and read the manga, I already know the whole storyline. Blood+ on the other hand seem to have a different take on the franchise, considering that Mamoru Oshii's original concept was about a vampire hunter girl that fights her own kind, nothing more nothing less. It was planned as a multi platform franchise spawning animes, mangas, novels, and video games. Each author of the franchise were given free reign over the source material so saying that one is more the canon story than the other is pointless, except probably for the novel written by Mamoru Oshii himself (haven't read that one though).
Since the title has changed, it's safe to say that the story doesn't revolve around The Last Vampire anymore. Those who read the manga would know who The Last Vampire is and her relation to Saya and Maya. But notice that Hagi's arm is very similar to Maya's arm at the end of the manga so they might use some story concept from the manga, particularly regarding clones.
This series also has a different atmosphere compared to the dark and violent air of the feature anime. Blood+ is bright (thanks to cg coloring) and has a girly feel to it, not surprising since the staff researched alot on shoujo mangas while developing the script. I read that from this interview here. http://www.productionig.com/contents/works_sp/20_/s08_/000223.html#c
For those who don't know what a shoujo anime is like, just look at Sailor Moon and notice the parallelism: The heroine has surpressed memories of her past and is destined to fight evil, occasionally aided by a mysterious good-looking man who is somehow linked to her past (in Sailor Moon that would be Tuxedo Mask) all the while living a 'normal' life with friends and family.
Suggesting that Blood The Last Vampire preceeds this series is debatable. Even though the opening of the first episode shows some scenes of Vietnam, notice that Saya is wearing what looks to be a hospital gown (check the tied knot on her back). Also in Blood The Last Vampire, Saya carries an ordinary katana (in the manga she broke it and got another one which at the end also broke) whereas in Blood+ what she's using is not a katana per se but rather some special sword that feeds on blood. If the events of the feature anime is used then they'd probably remake and rewrite it than referencing it.
To sum it up, it's too early to state the connection to the other franchise but I'm thinking that they're remaking the whole story and cut it's ties from The Last Vampire arc. And the photograph of the vampire family in 1892? I read that in episode #2 they changed it to only show Hagi and Saya.
Just a thought: usually the OP of any anime series would show all the main characters including the villain. So, who is the main villain? Hagi or Vin? I mean she can't be fighting chiropterans for 52 episodes straight! That would be too boring!
Anyways, thanks for the fansub. I really appreciated it. Great video quality and the subtitles are great too, especially the footnotes. I also like how you guys try to match the text fonts. It's these attention to detail that make the fansub look professionally made. Keep up the good work!
I'm anxiously looking forward to the next episode.
i_to
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Does Tofu translate this one too? Just wondering if the missing episode is the same reason for the Tsubasa Chronicle episode.
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I loved this anime and it's release was in perfect timing with my plan to show Blood: The Last Vampire OVA, to my club. So I showed the first ep right after the original film. A nice suprise for those who waited through the credits. They loved this anime, although we all found the choice of opening and ending themes rather humerous considering the content of the anime. I liked the ending art.
Saya is just a very beautiful character. She has got to be one of my all time faves, and seeing her young and innocent was bitter sweet, knowing she'll become the hardened assasin we see in the OVA. I thought it added to her depth.
As you can tell, I just loved this anime. I am very much so looking forward to it.
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Yeah, I saw it for the 2nd time today, as I screened it in our club. The response was good, for those that have as well as for those that have not seen the OVA. I actually haven't seen it yet, but the episode itself was very visually appealing. From a cinema point of view the show really gets you interested, and I found it to be quite cool. I look forward to more and hope that Live-Evil continue to work on the project.
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I found the first episode quite good but a few things kinda puzzled me. First, whats up with the dreams about running through a castle Saya keeps having? Is it something from the OVA (haven't watched that obviously, I'll get it after I finish getting nausicaa)? Second, why in the world is Saya's friend so..... intimate? with Saya... Its a little unnnerving.
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*looks at gender thing* You're a guy...so you wouldn't really get it. Girls who are very close, friend-wise, are like that! Heck, you should be lucky they don't kiss eachb other or something like some of my friends do. Either that, or there IS a little budding relationship there....
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Its a work to be proud of no doubt and so far the comments overwhelmingly support this I believe. (Anyone that doesnt believe it is just a moron anyway)
I appreciate all the work that goes into bringing us an anime series and so I thank you for your giant effort also! Keep it up, this will be your biggest triumph to date I really believe that!
Oh and to the reviewer that wrote this.............
One footnote observation, however: Cheiroptera are any form of mammalia whose forelimbs are fashioned like wings. This doesn't pertain solely to Eocene (bats). A cheiropteran is not always a bat while a bat is always a cheiropteran.
Woe, how old are you anyway?
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I found the first episode quite good but a few things kinda puzzled me. First, whats up with the dreams about running through a castle Saya keeps having? Is it something from the OVA (haven't watched that obviously, I'll get it after I finish getting nausicaa)? Second, why in the world is Saya's friend so..... intimate? with Saya... Its a little unnnerving.
I'd assume the dream sequences will be explained as the series goes on. Unnerving? Well if it is in fact a relationship, I'm sure you can handle it. Otherwise a little psudo homosexuality isn't going to kill you either. Still, as that post up there said, girls can act that way just as friends, it wasn't that intimate. A girl laying on her friend's stomach and picking food from her cheek isn't that unheard of.
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Yeah I know its just that I just read CLAMP's 'gohou drug' 1 to 3.... (if that series isn't suggestive what is?)....
Episode 2 is just another filler episode with a slow story, but it looks like that pace might start picking up from episode 3 onwards.
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Blood+ definitely starts to pick the pace up from ep 3 which I've just finished watching raw.
We get to learn a bit of back story and then well..the end of the episode is rather shocking :o
-gumbaloom
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blood+ is continued from an earlier series or smth right?
i didn't watch that series but i think blood+ is good!
haha. the first epi was interesting and got me anticipating the later episodes.
:D
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When is the next episode coming out. I hate being left with a cliffhangar.
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Blood+ definitely starts to pick the pace up from ep 3 which I've just finished watching raw.
We get to learn a bit of back story and then well..the end of the episode is rather shocking :o
-gumbaloom
Episode three of what? I knew their was a film but not another series..
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ep 3 of the current thread... you are thinking too much into it chill out
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well i think its a great story...also gj on the quick release
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OMGWTF. You have to hurry up with your subbing. I like you guys the best, but I think the seeding with Blood+ 3 won't be too good from you guys since Shinsen Subs already released it. Of course I will download your version as well. Do a little comparison. When you guys release your version I will post a side by side comparison of Shinsen Subs vs Live-3vil
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i have not seen the OVA, can someone PM me the link?
i like this series. chix + swords and blood = sexy anime
:D
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The OVA is licensed. No trading of illegal files on this forum please kthx.
-gumbaloom
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I wouldn't go out of the way in trying to get the OVA. nothing in particular is explained, in my opinion. I'm not saying by any means don't get it and if you come across a copy, I advise you to watch it just for comparison, but in my personal opinion, it's not a must have to be able to understand Blood+
They'll probably cover everything that they say in the OVA about Saya in the series. And a 45minute OVA compared to a whole series that already lasts an hour with the 3 episodes already realised really isn't worth it.
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I wouldn't go out of the way in trying to get the OVA. nothing in particular is explained, in my opinion. I'm not saying by any means don't get it and if you come across a copy, I advise you to watch it just for comparison, but in my personal opinion, it's not a must have to be able to understand Blood+
They'll probably cover everything that they say in the OVA about Saya in the series. And a 45minute OVA compared to a whole series that already lasts an hour with the 3 episodes already realised really isn't worth it.
Wrong. THe OVA is so much better just in acting and directing, not to mention quality of animation. True, nothing of the story is explained, but it's hella well made.
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The animation is oustanding. I completly agree. I was so amazed by the first two minutes that I watched them over and over, but story-wise and information wise, it leaves too much to the imagination and right at the end of the story, they give you all this new information that doesn't get explained.
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I've heard of this before but never got around to seeing it. Now I'm really curious and am starting to d/l them!! Yay!!
I've never seen the OAV though ... now I'm curious as to where I can find the OAV so that I can get the full experience ;)
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I've heard of this before but never got around to seeing it. Now I'm really curious and am starting to d/l them!! Yay!!
I've never seen the OAV though ... now I'm curious as to where I can find the OAV so that I can get the full experience ;)
It's licensed. Every HMV I've ever been in has had a copy of it. Then there's always the movie store.
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is le still subbging this?
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Yes
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what makes you think we stopped?
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when blood+ 3 and 4 released?
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when it's ready.
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thanks mikala
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Thanks very much for doing such a great job on this series. As for the show itself, I'm pretty impressed so far (after 2 episodes). It was a bit of a shock to see the huge difference visually over the OVA, but after a few minutes, I got used to the new artwork and actually like it a lot now. As for it being 'cleaned up' a lot, I have to disagree - it's as bloody as it needs to be without dropping into schlock-horror territory.
Very much looking forward to your future releases of it.
For gameoffreak - you need to know about the golden rule.....NEVER ask a sub-group when the next episode is going to be - it will actually earn you a warning or even a ban on some forums.
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Thanks very much for doing such a great job on this series. As for the show itself, I'm pretty impressed so far (after 2 episodes). It was a bit of a shock to see the huge difference visually over the OVA, but after a few minutes, I got used to the new artwork and actually like it a lot now. As for it being 'cleaned up' a lot, I have to disagree - it's as bloody as it needs to be without dropping into schlock-horror territory.
Very much looking forward to your future releases of it.
For gameoffreak - you need to know about the golden rule.....NEVER ask a sub-group when the next episode is going to be - it will actually earn you a warning or even a ban on some forums.
oh really, cuz i was join new on forums for first time
thank for telling me babel
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I finally got around to watching those two episodes and I'm thoroughly entranced so far. I'll admit though that I haven't seen the OVA yet.
I'm curious as to what the explanation for Saya's high metabolism is. I'm also fascinated by the music. I can't believe they got Hans Zimmer to work on the music (along with Mark Mancina). It should be interesting to see how that pans out. And the cello solos are gorgeous. There isn't nearly enough classical music on tv these days, north american or japanese.
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the metabolism thing seems obvious but I might be wrong...
Saya is kinda like a vampire herself isnt she? As she doesn't drink blood she must have to replace the energy she would get from sugars in the blood with food or something.
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the metabolism thing seems obvious but I might be wrong...
Saya is kinda like a vampire herself isnt she? As she doesn't drink blood she must have to replace the energy she would get from sugars in the blood with food or something.
I'm not sure I agree but then again that's why I want to see how it gets explained. Details like that make or break a show for me.
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Ep 3's out go leech all vampire like ! O_O
-gumbaloom
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Ep 3's out go leech all vampire like ! O_O
-gumbaloom
Thanks gumbaloom. I just sucked it dry. Great episode, really tasty.
PS: Great work with that note. You guys are awesome.
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering if this is still being subbed as I havent seen a release for a few week's now. I'm not in any rush for them though as I'm just downloading them all for one sitting and watching a few episodes in one go but would like to know if LE is still gonna release them as your guys subs are heaps more preffered from alot of other places.
Thanks, tumzy
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I would be willing to bet you that yes L-E is still subbing this (unless of course they dropped it without telling anybody, which I think is fairly unlikely). And that as soon as Sindobook sees this he is going to refer you to the L-E pig as to the release schedule as ordained by the diviners.
And besides, it's barely been two weeks. Have patience.
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yes the pig the pig you must consult the pig he is mighty in all ways and more clever than any, consult the pig and be humbled!(sorry sindo i wanted to do it once.)
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All hail the mighty pig!
Edit: I just want to say that I'm also waiting for episodes 5 and 6. I could get them from other groups but I started with Live-Evil and I'm going to stick with Live-Evil not matter how long it takes, I just want them to do a good work as always.
(Yes, this edit was only to avoid being completely off-topic)
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Another thing to notice is that they haven't released anything at all since November 9th. Maybe there's something wrong? ???
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Hmmmm thanks for the replies, but I thought it was more than 2 weeks since the last release. Anyway its probably me imagining the past 2 weeks being alot longer than they usually are due to exams and such. I've got plenty patience for releases anyway as im just pilling on the episodes and will enjoy all of them in one go or whenever i get time.
By the way, what is the LE pig you guys speak of?
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Episode 5 is waiting on final encoding
Episode 6 is timed and awaiting further processing
Episode 7 is awaiting translation
The L-E pig can be seen here -> http://sindo.live-evil.org. Our pig is able to discern via astrological charts the most optimum time when we should make releases. He also runs around in his wheel to generate kinetic energy to make such releases possible. Our pig is also very interested and supports the subtitling of pig friendly anime which includes such classic shows as Magical Angel Creamy Mami. Unfortunately the pig does not regard Blood+ as a pig friendly anime so he doesnt help on that :-/ .
-gumbaloom
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Thanks gumbaloom for the update!
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ahh cool, thanks for the update.
By pig friendly animes do you mean animes with pigs in them or the pig watches the anime and rates them by running around the wheel a certain amount of times?
Either way the LE pig seems like some super smart pig if it can read astrocological charts, makes me wish I had a super monkey.
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so what is the pig saying right now......
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In case none of you knew, Tofu's been missing for a while, and none of these guys actually know where he is. That's probably why there's been a delay.
Just thought I'd give you that bit of info. Completly irrelivant, and probably not helpful. but yeah.
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yeah a supe moneky or a super animal of anykind would be cool! i would want a super lizard!
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I was just wondering is any of the members of live-evil military? You all knew awful alot about what is happening in okinawa. The internet can tell you about sofa but alot people don't know about the Marines going to guam. Inless you are stationed over there. It's no big deal I was just wondering. In case you were wondering I am Air Force stationed over there. Whats cool is some of the places they mention in blood+ I have seen. Now all I have to do is look for over groan monsters that feed off of human blood. ;D
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a couple of tid bits for you.
-07 and 08 are translated and are now undergoing a severe beating by the editors.
-Tofu doesn't translate this show anymore, I do - he's been awol for some time when I took over.
-I'm not in the military, must be some sort of elite editor that knows that stuff. I just put in whatever google told me :p
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=8241
So its licenced now, by Sony of all people, i wonder if this means they're going to start licencing more full series
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Ah well - it's a shame when it happens before a fan sub has been completed, but still L-E guys you did a great job
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Yep, Blood+ licensed by Sony so the usual health warnings apply. No asking for raws or subs please or something unpleasant will happen to you.
-gumbaloom