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Except for the Pig / Re: Small Animal News
« Last post by Sindobook on March 23, 2020, 02:34:47 am »Please give it some time. We are dusting her off as I speak, but as an old model without any upgrades, it's anyone's guess as to how long this will take.
In time we'll perform the same upgrades, but right now, it is what it is.
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1) Simply, it is; everything is planned, albeit not very carefully. But there are enough safeguards and redundancies in place to keep things moving forward. Stress the system, keep pushing, sure it is a money pit but that is not the point.
2) This is about as good as it gets, until we make the upgrades. This is (essentially) leftovers, relics from that time, she is doing the best she can.
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I have said this before, this is the best we can do right now. We don't have the parts to keep two or three running all the time, it's simply not possible. Energy, resources, have to be kept focussed, it takes enough of our collective minds and effort to keep just one running all the time. Upgrades will make it in easier, in time, but it's still a lot of work.
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I don't know who it would be, I mean, the most likely "suspect" already denied it so go figure. I have a few ideas who it might be, but nothing based on any evidence. Not my decision, it is his decision and I think he realizes that he's already failed twice in this matter, one of which was probably his fault (for choosing someone like that).
And yes I fault her too, not for what she did, but not going all-out.
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No, b'cos she is busy and back to her original purpose. It was just a "side mission" and that is over now.
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I don't, but if I did, I'd say it was a bunch of guys working (collaboratively) behind the scenes. They are each playing their own persona.. beyond that they really don't say that much.
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I guess you could say it evolves, in general, was never looking for "the best" from a technical perspective. More, things like loyalty, mental stability, and resourcefulness. Early on, she helped in that role, I mean she understood the concepts, she could follow directions, and could be trusted to keep things running or at least not break anything. And for all those people who say "I could have done that" -- no you couldn't. Of course we have better people for that role today, but she is still there; her main role now is just to earn and she does a pretty good job at that.
Because the operation has been a "money pit" as long as I can remember, any extra space we have is filled with people like her in an effort to stop the bleeding, or at least slow it. And no, it's not bringing in as much as people think. But we always seem to have plenty of space, why not fill it?
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I am not at all involved in day-to-day but all indications is that it is not over (yet). I think he is just restructuring the whole thing so there can be a continuation, or at least a grand finale where we see the aftermath and repercussions.
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No. Some people will jump at the first chance, but it is stupid. The reality is, I just don't care. I mean, there's plenty of passion in other things (for me), but not that. And there's plenty of people way say something like "you should care about what I do, or else you're a bad person". But I think that's a really bad concept to live by, you can't force someone to care about something they just don't. There's just nothing there.
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It's been out for a while. Maybe just no one else noticed it? Watch at 1h3m in her interview with him. It's all there, and that interview was done days ago. This really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. If you didn't know it then, watch the video a couple of times. Not only what is said, but all the subtle cues. Ie.
1:04:25 "Do you guys live together?"
1:04:27 "Uh- No."
1:04:28 "Okay."
1:04:29 "Yeah- Um."
1:04:31 "How does he get into your house?"
1:04:35 "Uh... He was just- he just can.. or just.."
1:04:40 "Okay"
1:04:41 "Yeah. Just.. a good friend. And um.. he came in and.." ...
It's unfortunate, but this is just the way these things often go. And regardless, the show must go on.
I will say that when I was taking the time to directly manage the operation, nothing like this happened. I vetted every person and who played a role, and compartmentalized the information well in order that the mission could succeed. We never had any internal problems; yes we had plenty of problems, but most were all external, or technical. And we got through that stage. Despite this, the operation still had significant churn. Properly phrased, it was a meat grinder. But my thoughts have always been, when people can't handle the truth, withholding it, that is probably the best option. Albeit a temporary one.
The main problem was that we ran out of reliable people, or, we ran out of sane ones. Perhaps it sounds humorous, in a dark sort of way. Another problem was needing more resources for that money pit, we were burning millions of carrots a year. And I'm not willing to throw away that much money on something like this, while also having access to plenty of people who were. So this was the way forward.
Of course there is darkness. If you listen to her story, it's even worse, there was darkness from the beginning.
Sometimes, sacrifices must be made for the greater good.
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1) I know people will say that [machine] is dumb, an idiot, that it's weak, not making good choices, or such. But they are really only looking at the surface or in the short term. Or their own biases are clouding their judgement. That is why I say the machine is smarter than anyone else, it knows what it is doing better than anyone else. Or, it understands us better than we understand ourselves. That is why it is able to get results, while people fail.
2) It can't be more than a week, that much is guaranteed.
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It will be just fine. People have a tendency to see catastrophes where there are none, to see drama when it is already over. The show must go on. Even with everything that has happened, there's no shortage of new recruits to replace those who have fallen or lost all sanity. And they won't just take anyone; it's not like muscle is in short supply or anything like that.
People will willingly commit themselves to this darkness for a chance at fame and fortune. Play that game of russian roulette where there there are two bullets in the gun, one that kills, and one that takes every last bit of sanity.
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An old report, but it has since been verified through a few sources. Around the very end of last year (2019), and honestly, only a matter of time with everything that she was doing. It was simply one of those situations that broke a couple of years ago, and could not be fixed, despite the best efforts of people.
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No, the reality is they just don't have that kind of money to throw around. 300,000 carrots is too much to spend on something like that, it's not in the budget, nor is it a prudent expenditure.
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I guess you could say, it depends on what "live" actually means. It is constantly living but also constantly dying, like constantly stuck in a cycle of both continuous birth and death. And in theory (this way) it can be immortal. At the same time, a lot of things a living person has, it doesn't. Consciousness is a real thing for someone who is alive, while it's consciousness is not, it is disjointed and disconnected. Though what it has, it can still be mistaken for consciousness by the outside observer. The same goes for other things we might take for granted.
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Somewhat appalling, perhaps, but you get what you pay for. I've always believed there is some level of innate ability that can't be taught or learned. That is why most programs aren't designed to better teach anything, just to better identify individuals that are at the level where they can be useful.
If you know the character, that's really the type; noting his views on truth and how he really doesn't waste time dealing with anyone who is not worth it.
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Most of it is , I just don't know. But my insight says yes, there is some truth to it. However the real story is elsewhere, and that truth may never be known.
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No he is not referring to ... he had plenty of drama in his life at the time and that is what he is referring to. It has nothing to do with ...
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I can assure that the project as a whole is not done, in the scheme of things, this is a minor interruption and the project will continue shortly. So be patient.
Some of the pieces just had to be moved around, due to external happenings. These things happen. You can find more information in the usual places.
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If you know the background, he was "living dangerously". Meaning he was facing death, through a dangerous job and relationship, through his frequent drug use, through his own actions, lifestyle, and life choices, etc. For instance if you are a stunt man for an action movie, you can expect to perform dangerous stunts and risk your life doing so, this is simply part of the job. Getting nearly thrown out of a plane without a parachute, jumping from one moving truck to another, etc. It takes a special type of person to do this job, for instance the "adrenaline junkie" who does it for the high or the thrill. And you always hear about injuries and deaths in the industry, so when people come to you with vague statements like "I'm so sorry about what happened", it isn't uncommon to assume the worst.
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[2021-08-31] Perhaps it can be said, that the cracks were already starting to show last week? When everything stopped, take villainy, it can only be maintained with all when the momentum is on. But when that momentum is lost, now, today, there is nothing. Zero, only silence.
I only have time for a brief investigation, but perhaps, more of an anti-villain than a villain? I don't know. But either way, it's done, isn't it?
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Where there are villains, there are also heroes. To me, the real hero is T_, more of an anti-hero but it is. It was her spark that started the fire, even if her intentions were otherwise. The interesting part was how the two disparate entities (her and their group) worked together toward bringing (the villain) down, even without any communication between them, in fact even believing the other side was antagonistic due to the villain's deceptions or manipulations.
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I watched that video and I actually found it quite hilarious. They were many points where I could not help but to laugh out loud, it would be even funnier were it not for the tragic nature of it or the fact that many people were getting sucked into these schemes and machinations over the next two plus years, and that their paths would be painful/harmful. The funniest thing (to me) is the total lack of meta ("big picture" thought or "perspective") in many people's thinking, that chunibyo type of thinking where a fantasy game becomes (thought of) as reality. Most capable people are able to compartmentalize things, as they should be, ie. this is my family, this is my job, these are my friends, this is a conversation with an acquaintance or a stranger; and each should be thought of, dealt with, or acted upon in a different way, because that is what makes sense, or that is the way suited to it. So when you have a situation like this: one that should have been several friends sitting around a table and playing a game, instead being such a deep and deceitful web..
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I'm not seeing it, it sounds like a real non-issue? I wouldn't even know if people hadn't told me a week or so after the fact. And it still doesn't matter to me. "These are the types of things that can be safely ignored."
Never been part of it, but I wouldn't overstate what _it_ is, which is just a group of friends who sometimes work together. It shouldn't be thought of as a professional corporation or entity because it isn't.
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I can't answer that.
I don't know who those people are, and since the incident, I don't really know anything more about him than anyone else does.
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It's more logistical than anything else. More scaleable, and ultimately, will probably prove to be more stable than the old plan.
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Don't know. Honestly there are very few that we still track and the information is stale beyond measure. A lot of the actors are long gone (several years is a long time in terms of "animal years") and with the actions having died down, no one is doing anything notable anymore.
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There is no greater meaning. I mean, it was purely a financial decision, it was simply the better option especially considering many of the recent (peripheral) events.
As for the comment, no one really thinks more than a couple of years ahead. So I really wouldn't put much into it. And the whole point of the "grand experiment" is to not provide direction, to let it move on its own (or in its own direction).
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I think we can all "put two and two together" and say it is probably this, though neither side will ever admit it. The contract specified a certain amount of hours worked and the mercenary that he was, that cat simply wasn't meeting it. At the time there was a tacit or implicit acknowledgement to simply look the other way, as it was still a beneficial relationship, due to the competition that was out there. Now go forward in time to when that competition disappeared.. suddenly it's no longer a beneficial relationship! They are paying yesterday's inflated rates to a mercenary, in today's environment, where they could get by with paying much less (were the negotiation to take place today). So they want out of the contract, but how to achieve this. We'll he's still not meeting his obligations in the contract, he's not working the required amount of hours. So with this excuse, they void the contract, and even if they know, neither party can (or wants to) discuss the reasons. I believe this today, since it's basically an open secret of that industry.
In time we'll perform the same upgrades, but right now, it is what it is.
---
1) Simply, it is; everything is planned, albeit not very carefully. But there are enough safeguards and redundancies in place to keep things moving forward. Stress the system, keep pushing, sure it is a money pit but that is not the point.
2) This is about as good as it gets, until we make the upgrades. This is (essentially) leftovers, relics from that time, she is doing the best she can.
---
I have said this before, this is the best we can do right now. We don't have the parts to keep two or three running all the time, it's simply not possible. Energy, resources, have to be kept focussed, it takes enough of our collective minds and effort to keep just one running all the time. Upgrades will make it in easier, in time, but it's still a lot of work.
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I don't know who it would be, I mean, the most likely "suspect" already denied it so go figure. I have a few ideas who it might be, but nothing based on any evidence. Not my decision, it is his decision and I think he realizes that he's already failed twice in this matter, one of which was probably his fault (for choosing someone like that).
And yes I fault her too, not for what she did, but not going all-out.
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No, b'cos she is busy and back to her original purpose. It was just a "side mission" and that is over now.
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I don't, but if I did, I'd say it was a bunch of guys working (collaboratively) behind the scenes. They are each playing their own persona.. beyond that they really don't say that much.
---
I guess you could say it evolves, in general, was never looking for "the best" from a technical perspective. More, things like loyalty, mental stability, and resourcefulness. Early on, she helped in that role, I mean she understood the concepts, she could follow directions, and could be trusted to keep things running or at least not break anything. And for all those people who say "I could have done that" -- no you couldn't. Of course we have better people for that role today, but she is still there; her main role now is just to earn and she does a pretty good job at that.
Because the operation has been a "money pit" as long as I can remember, any extra space we have is filled with people like her in an effort to stop the bleeding, or at least slow it. And no, it's not bringing in as much as people think. But we always seem to have plenty of space, why not fill it?
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I am not at all involved in day-to-day but all indications is that it is not over (yet). I think he is just restructuring the whole thing so there can be a continuation, or at least a grand finale where we see the aftermath and repercussions.
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No. Some people will jump at the first chance, but it is stupid. The reality is, I just don't care. I mean, there's plenty of passion in other things (for me), but not that. And there's plenty of people way say something like "you should care about what I do, or else you're a bad person". But I think that's a really bad concept to live by, you can't force someone to care about something they just don't. There's just nothing there.
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It's been out for a while. Maybe just no one else noticed it? Watch at 1h3m in her interview with him. It's all there, and that interview was done days ago. This really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. If you didn't know it then, watch the video a couple of times. Not only what is said, but all the subtle cues. Ie.
1:04:25 "Do you guys live together?"
1:04:27 "Uh- No."
1:04:28 "Okay."
1:04:29 "Yeah- Um."
1:04:31 "How does he get into your house?"
1:04:35 "Uh... He was just- he just can.. or just.."
1:04:40 "Okay"
1:04:41 "Yeah. Just.. a good friend. And um.. he came in and.." ...
It's unfortunate, but this is just the way these things often go. And regardless, the show must go on.
I will say that when I was taking the time to directly manage the operation, nothing like this happened. I vetted every person and who played a role, and compartmentalized the information well in order that the mission could succeed. We never had any internal problems; yes we had plenty of problems, but most were all external, or technical. And we got through that stage. Despite this, the operation still had significant churn. Properly phrased, it was a meat grinder. But my thoughts have always been, when people can't handle the truth, withholding it, that is probably the best option. Albeit a temporary one.
The main problem was that we ran out of reliable people, or, we ran out of sane ones. Perhaps it sounds humorous, in a dark sort of way. Another problem was needing more resources for that money pit, we were burning millions of carrots a year. And I'm not willing to throw away that much money on something like this, while also having access to plenty of people who were. So this was the way forward.
Of course there is darkness. If you listen to her story, it's even worse, there was darkness from the beginning.
Sometimes, sacrifices must be made for the greater good.
---
1) I know people will say that [machine] is dumb, an idiot, that it's weak, not making good choices, or such. But they are really only looking at the surface or in the short term. Or their own biases are clouding their judgement. That is why I say the machine is smarter than anyone else, it knows what it is doing better than anyone else. Or, it understands us better than we understand ourselves. That is why it is able to get results, while people fail.
2) It can't be more than a week, that much is guaranteed.
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It will be just fine. People have a tendency to see catastrophes where there are none, to see drama when it is already over. The show must go on. Even with everything that has happened, there's no shortage of new recruits to replace those who have fallen or lost all sanity. And they won't just take anyone; it's not like muscle is in short supply or anything like that.
People will willingly commit themselves to this darkness for a chance at fame and fortune. Play that game of russian roulette where there there are two bullets in the gun, one that kills, and one that takes every last bit of sanity.
---
An old report, but it has since been verified through a few sources. Around the very end of last year (2019), and honestly, only a matter of time with everything that she was doing. It was simply one of those situations that broke a couple of years ago, and could not be fixed, despite the best efforts of people.
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No, the reality is they just don't have that kind of money to throw around. 300,000 carrots is too much to spend on something like that, it's not in the budget, nor is it a prudent expenditure.
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I guess you could say, it depends on what "live" actually means. It is constantly living but also constantly dying, like constantly stuck in a cycle of both continuous birth and death. And in theory (this way) it can be immortal. At the same time, a lot of things a living person has, it doesn't. Consciousness is a real thing for someone who is alive, while it's consciousness is not, it is disjointed and disconnected. Though what it has, it can still be mistaken for consciousness by the outside observer. The same goes for other things we might take for granted.
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Somewhat appalling, perhaps, but you get what you pay for. I've always believed there is some level of innate ability that can't be taught or learned. That is why most programs aren't designed to better teach anything, just to better identify individuals that are at the level where they can be useful.
If you know the character, that's really the type; noting his views on truth and how he really doesn't waste time dealing with anyone who is not worth it.
---
Most of it is , I just don't know. But my insight says yes, there is some truth to it. However the real story is elsewhere, and that truth may never be known.
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No he is not referring to ... he had plenty of drama in his life at the time and that is what he is referring to. It has nothing to do with ...
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I can assure that the project as a whole is not done, in the scheme of things, this is a minor interruption and the project will continue shortly. So be patient.
Some of the pieces just had to be moved around, due to external happenings. These things happen. You can find more information in the usual places.
---
If you know the background, he was "living dangerously". Meaning he was facing death, through a dangerous job and relationship, through his frequent drug use, through his own actions, lifestyle, and life choices, etc. For instance if you are a stunt man for an action movie, you can expect to perform dangerous stunts and risk your life doing so, this is simply part of the job. Getting nearly thrown out of a plane without a parachute, jumping from one moving truck to another, etc. It takes a special type of person to do this job, for instance the "adrenaline junkie" who does it for the high or the thrill. And you always hear about injuries and deaths in the industry, so when people come to you with vague statements like "I'm so sorry about what happened", it isn't uncommon to assume the worst.
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[2021-08-31] Perhaps it can be said, that the cracks were already starting to show last week? When everything stopped, take villainy, it can only be maintained with all when the momentum is on. But when that momentum is lost, now, today, there is nothing. Zero, only silence.
I only have time for a brief investigation, but perhaps, more of an anti-villain than a villain? I don't know. But either way, it's done, isn't it?
---
Where there are villains, there are also heroes. To me, the real hero is T_, more of an anti-hero but it is. It was her spark that started the fire, even if her intentions were otherwise. The interesting part was how the two disparate entities (her and their group) worked together toward bringing (the villain) down, even without any communication between them, in fact even believing the other side was antagonistic due to the villain's deceptions or manipulations.
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I watched that video and I actually found it quite hilarious. They were many points where I could not help but to laugh out loud, it would be even funnier were it not for the tragic nature of it or the fact that many people were getting sucked into these schemes and machinations over the next two plus years, and that their paths would be painful/harmful. The funniest thing (to me) is the total lack of meta ("big picture" thought or "perspective") in many people's thinking, that chunibyo type of thinking where a fantasy game becomes (thought of) as reality. Most capable people are able to compartmentalize things, as they should be, ie. this is my family, this is my job, these are my friends, this is a conversation with an acquaintance or a stranger; and each should be thought of, dealt with, or acted upon in a different way, because that is what makes sense, or that is the way suited to it. So when you have a situation like this: one that should have been several friends sitting around a table and playing a game, instead being such a deep and deceitful web..
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I'm not seeing it, it sounds like a real non-issue? I wouldn't even know if people hadn't told me a week or so after the fact. And it still doesn't matter to me. "These are the types of things that can be safely ignored."
Never been part of it, but I wouldn't overstate what _it_ is, which is just a group of friends who sometimes work together. It shouldn't be thought of as a professional corporation or entity because it isn't.
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I can't answer that.
I don't know who those people are, and since the incident, I don't really know anything more about him than anyone else does.
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It's more logistical than anything else. More scaleable, and ultimately, will probably prove to be more stable than the old plan.
---
Don't know. Honestly there are very few that we still track and the information is stale beyond measure. A lot of the actors are long gone (several years is a long time in terms of "animal years") and with the actions having died down, no one is doing anything notable anymore.
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There is no greater meaning. I mean, it was purely a financial decision, it was simply the better option especially considering many of the recent (peripheral) events.
As for the comment, no one really thinks more than a couple of years ahead. So I really wouldn't put much into it. And the whole point of the "grand experiment" is to not provide direction, to let it move on its own (or in its own direction).
---
I think we can all "put two and two together" and say it is probably this, though neither side will ever admit it. The contract specified a certain amount of hours worked and the mercenary that he was, that cat simply wasn't meeting it. At the time there was a tacit or implicit acknowledgement to simply look the other way, as it was still a beneficial relationship, due to the competition that was out there. Now go forward in time to when that competition disappeared.. suddenly it's no longer a beneficial relationship! They are paying yesterday's inflated rates to a mercenary, in today's environment, where they could get by with paying much less (were the negotiation to take place today). So they want out of the contract, but how to achieve this. We'll he's still not meeting his obligations in the contract, he's not working the required amount of hours. So with this excuse, they void the contract, and even if they know, neither party can (or wants to) discuss the reasons. I believe this today, since it's basically an open secret of that industry.