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Title: Shion no Ou
Post by: bastard-sama on October 19, 2007, 11:09:52 pm
Since no one has decided to make a post about the new anime I guess I shall
NOOOWWWWW DISCUSSSSS that is all
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: mamochan on October 19, 2007, 11:26:22 pm
Shion ftw?  [:jar jar]  [:perchut2]
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on October 20, 2007, 12:12:10 am
According to the pig this show was very scarey and should not be watched by anyone.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: tlynnec on October 20, 2007, 08:49:27 pm
Yes, please, discuss.
/me blindfolds the pig and watches the awesome show.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Techrat on October 30, 2007, 04:06:08 am
WOW!  [:jar jar]  And I ain't talking about World of Warcraft!  ;D

I am hooked.  The story seems to be very promissing. 
Can't wait to see what happens next.  :)

Keep up the good work.    [:burtonsnowboard]
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: sosanimeboy on November 06, 2007, 02:35:35 pm
One person I know had some (hopefully) constructive criticism about our release:

http://www.kickassanime.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=63355#63355

I haven't watched it yet, so I can't agree or disagree with his opinion.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Elchfaenger on November 15, 2007, 02:34:24 pm
I love you for picking up this show! Honestly, i was very pleasantly surprised by that release since I didn't even know an anime version of that existed.
i adored the manga, but sadly releases got stuck quickly. So it's really nice to see more of this lovely story.
Guess i shall not post spoilers here, but this is getting more and more interesting!
About criticism at KAA: None of that attracted my attention, so I'd say it's nothing serious. Instead i was amazed by the HD release.
Keep it up and thanks so far!
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: TheWind on November 30, 2007, 11:47:47 pm
Ok, this series actually made me re-register my nickname....
First of all, thanks for subbing this!
But I didn't just register to say thank you - I noticed something. Or rather, my boyfriend did. And we thought others might also be interested in this.
There's this part of the opening where portraits of some characters are shown - and we noticed that each is accompanied by two very distorted sentences. So we wondered what they say.

Thanks to the frame-by-frame function of media player classic, we could decipher them (left in japanese as the first sentences seem a bit spoilerish):

羽仁悟(?)
「だから言ったろ… 君は素直すぎるのさ」
「ほら…傷つけば ちゃんと痛いじゃないか」

神園修
「フ… 血だまりか…」
「勝負ってのは それだけで厳しいんだぜ!」

小林
「あんな可愛い顔して そこまで勝負にこだわるなんて」
「それは僕も一緒ですよ。 将棋なんてどうでもいい」

安岡幸子
「あの子はもう 充分苦しんだのに…」
「だったら母さん …待ってるから」

安岡信次
「決して諦めないこと…か」
「助けられたのは 俺の方かもしれないな…」

羽仁真
「心配するな… これでもっと 強くなれる」
「一番強い奴を決める… それが本当の将棋だろ?」


Seems like they're all quotes from the character shown...

Did anyone else notice this? What do you think about it?
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on December 01, 2007, 12:35:01 am
Nonsense.  If you want the real secret message, look up the shift-JIS numbers for each one of those kanji and try running them through the JN-25 cipher with the code books issued on 1 December 1941.  The resulting text is too clear to be a simple coincedence.  Be warned it contains major spoilers, things that haven't been revealed yet even in the manga.  Who could have imagined such a ******* *** for ***** and the plot twist about ***** being a [deleted], oh the humanity!
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: rosachinensis on December 11, 2007, 08:45:42 am
hey guys this anime is SO great, i really can't wait .. and YES, maybe it's stupid, but i registered only to show my appreciation for this title. unfortunately anime  like this are not so popular, so i'm really glad that live evil is subbing it and encoding it in a very compatible xvid^__^'. that's all.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on December 12, 2007, 08:20:34 pm
hey guys this anime is SO great, i really can't wait .. and YES, maybe it's stupid, but i registered only to show my appreciation for this title. unfortunately anime  like this are not so popular, so i'm really glad that live evil is subbing it and encoding it in a very compatible xvid^__^'. that's all.
It is not a popular show?  I thought it was one of the most popular shows for this season (?).  Either way it is quality.  The characters are more genuine than other shows of this type and the theme is better.

What I think is really goofy is how the characters are basically throwing their lives away for shogi.  They are choosing to forgo high school / college in favor of the game.  The game has become an obsession, their life is centered around it.  This is evident online/irl also.  Online I remember in one of the early subbing groups I was in there was a guy who had almost dropped out of college b'cos he became obsessed with a game called EQ/Everquest.  I know people like this irl too -- the game is more important than their friends, their family, their kids, etc.  It's kinda like .hack or something like that in this respect.  The three main characters each have some 'reason' to justify their obsession at first.  But eventually you have to ask, who is playing (controlling) who?  Are they playing the game, or is the game playing them? 
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: tlynnec on December 16, 2007, 12:23:01 am
While that's true to an extent Sindo, I don't completely agree with you.  Unlike EQ or other hobbies, the characters in this show are pursuing a professional career.  In that respect, not going to high school/college isn't that odd, as many of the most successful business people, professional athletes, and artists  in the last 10 years have done the same. Look at the leaders in the computer industry, for example. And its not uncommon for figure skaters and gymnasts (both usually quite young) to delay or drop school to pursue Olympic & professional careers.  I actually quite respect people who know what they want to do with their lives and are willing to dedicate themselves whole-heartedly to the pursuit of that dream.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on December 17, 2007, 09:58:43 pm
But you have to know when to step down too.  I watched the most current episode this morning.  Look at the example of the old master.  He's at the point in his life where he judges his accomplishments not in terms of games won, but in terms of how many young players he is able to inspire or to pass on his knowledge to.  The things like figure skating and gymnastics are okay for hobbies, exercise, etc.  But otherwise I think many parents push their children too hard.  There are tens of thousands of child athletes and only a finite number of spots to fill.  There's a whole industry bent around it, but what do these children do when they aren't one of the lucky few and they have nothing to fall back on or no life to return to.  If they had just done it as a hobby and kept the proper perspective on life, it wouldn't be such a problem.  If the fulfillment of a dream relies on something external to the dream itself -- a condition that can only be met for a select few -- a false dream like this is a risky thing indeed.  Imagine if the old master had never taken on Ayumi as an apprentice or never realised in his lifetime that there was something beyond winning or losing the game.  That would be the real tragedy.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Selenity on January 01, 2008, 01:49:15 am
I do think it gets a little dramatic with the shougi, but I don't think it's overreaching. Professional players of any sport take their craft very seriously. Anyone who has played sports can appreciate the mental battle that goes on with each episode. But it goes beyond just competition. The main characters are in a psycological battle for their lives as well.

I LOVE this series. It's my favorite fansub since Innocent Venus.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: BTime on January 28, 2008, 06:06:54 am
Just wanted to say "Thanks" to Live-Evil for subbing this show.  You guys are always in my top 10 sub groups   :)

Now if I could only talk you into fansubbing Oishinbo  [:jar jar]
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on January 28, 2008, 05:01:26 pm
http://hozo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/shogi/
If anyone missed the thread on asuki you can play shougi against a hamster online for free.

http://shogi-shack.net/playhamshogi.aspx

People say the hamster is pretty tough, but I don't think anywhere near as tough as our pig.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on February 20, 2008, 02:33:47 am
Is it just me or is the art (character designs) in the latest Shion episode substantially "different"?
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Demn on February 20, 2008, 09:21:33 am
One person I know had some (hopefully) constructive criticism about our release:

kaa link (http://kaa link)
KAA+fans are probably just angry the encoder didn't turn on the warpsharp and smoothers to "MAX ANIME EXTREME FOR H.264"

!@#$%^&* !@#$%^&*()!@ KAA encoders
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: ms308680 on March 19, 2008, 03:15:40 am
Really missing this show, any clue when the subbing will continue.  :)  Thanks.  and great job, apprechiate the hard work.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: apjafia on March 24, 2008, 01:23:59 pm
I was glad, when I read that the translation will continue, because I'm a big fan of this series, and also I'm translating it to hungarian. Hope we don't have to wait for so long for the next release.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: selectiveyellow on April 18, 2008, 06:24:18 am
Thank you Live-Evil for subbing this show. It's fantastic, one of the best from the Fall season.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: dirkbogarde1001 on May 06, 2008, 09:03:56 pm
did the series become licensed? ???
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on May 06, 2008, 09:57:18 pm
Yeah, it was licensed by the pig a few months ago, that's why l-e is the only group that releases it anymore.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: dirkbogarde1001 on May 07, 2008, 01:13:27 am
does that mean it got abandoned as a fansub? or is it just private matters preventing the completion of it? i could always read the manga, but i'll hold out if i think it's gonna be finished.


by pig you mean a nameless corporate conglomerate?
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on May 07, 2008, 02:00:32 am
http://forum.live-evil.org/index.php/board,14.0.html
No the pig whose own forum you can get to by following the link above.  Read the FAQ.

And it is not abandoned as a fansub, not by live-evil at least, since the pig is the de-facto leader of live-evil.  Just that no other fansub group will touch it anymore, out of fear of what the pig would do.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: dirkbogarde1001 on May 07, 2008, 05:35:29 am
so are you the pig or a faction therein? thats cool i guess. and by fear do you mean the anxiety that results from nasty bulletins you may post about agitators?
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: tlynnec on May 07, 2008, 06:10:05 am
I can only assume that you are incapable of  reading the website...
http://www.live-evil.org/archives/2008/03/22/shion-update (http://www.live-evil.org/archives/2008/03/22/shion-update) & http://www.live-evil.org/archives/2008/04/19/released-shion-no-ou-19-sd-hd (http://www.live-evil.org/archives/2008/04/19/released-shion-no-ou-19-sd-hd)
 :-\

Really now, research before u ask, please.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: dirkbogarde1001 on May 07, 2008, 02:01:04 pm
look.. i don't care that you call yourself the pig... thats great. i didn't enter in to this thread to discuss nomenclature, i was just curious as to the present state of this anime,  but go ahead and keep talking about yourselves. im glad you guys will finish it so i can watch it... oops now im talking about me now. how silly.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Suzuran on May 07, 2008, 06:07:15 pm
It's out when it's done. It's very rude to pester people about it.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on May 07, 2008, 08:02:36 pm
look.. i don't care that you call yourself the pig... thats great. i didn't enter in to this thread to discuss
The pig is real, if you don't believe here is his picture.
http://sindo.live-evil.org/pig03.jpg
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: flarex on May 15, 2008, 12:37:56 am
Cute! A guinea pig! And here I was thinking Babe...

Shion no Ou is definitely one of the better series lately. The most recent flush of Spring anime hasn't particularly touched me yet... I'm not into mecha much and we're abounds with anime like Kyouran Kazoku Nikki and Soul Eater.

I wake up every day and pray to my Live-Evil shrine in my closet for the next episode of Shion T_T (kidding)

Either way I'm sure that all of us are grateful that L-E has good taste and has bothered to pick it up. Nijuu Mensou no Musume is great too. Kudos~<3
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: inf666 on May 20, 2008, 07:45:02 pm
I registered just to say: Thank you for subbing this series!!

Shion no Ou ist great to watch and the suspense is killing me.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: tlynnec on May 20, 2008, 08:03:23 pm
thanks guys ^_^
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Teufel on May 23, 2008, 06:24:44 am
Thanks for subbing the series. The end of episode twenty was pretty evil, I hope we don't have to wait a month each for the last two episodes - the suspense is just too much.  ;D
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: eschiver on May 25, 2008, 11:56:40 pm
wahhh, I see the end coming.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: niniel1 on May 26, 2008, 09:07:45 am
ARGGGGG!
According to wikipedia and a few other anime showing times, episode 22 aired on 22 of March!
Yet its now the 25 of May! And only episode 20 is subbed!
ARGGG!!!!!
I...MUST.....KNOW......THE............ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no!!!!!!!!!!!
I have to wait.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

PLEASE SUB THE NEXT TWO EPISODES!!!!! Put me out of my misery please!
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Deus_Ex_Machinae on May 26, 2008, 11:22:23 am
Geez, dude, you forgot to add the "[troll-Mode]" and "[/troll-Mode]" tags to your post ;)
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: bastard-sama on May 26, 2008, 01:02:14 pm
Okay, We dropped it so that should put you out of your misery  :D
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: gsimon on May 29, 2008, 12:35:09 am
Okay, We dropped it so that should put you out of your misery  :D

What a shockl! During a few seconds I believed you. Don't scare us with such jokes, please ^^;;;

Thank you to Life-Evil for subbing this title. Great work on a great anime!

---
As a side note... I urge anybody who missed this anime to give it a try. Watch it!

It's a nice mix of several kind of anime (tournament, drama, mistery...), self-sufficient and short (22 eps)

It's also original on 2 specific points:

 - the main protagonist suffer muteness

 - it takes place in the world of Shogi/japanese chess (but remarquably, you don't need to know anything about it)

Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on May 29, 2008, 03:28:04 am
Also we're likely to see a real 'finale' and end here, I mean, something BIG will happen, not just like most of those shows that just kind-of... end.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: chas on May 29, 2008, 06:52:48 am
I was wondering what LE's work ethic was on Shion no Ou (and their anime in general). The show is about to end and your release-pace seems to have dropped drastically. Now if it was me, I'd be hard-pressed to deliver a show that is about to reach its climax as soon as possible, which leaves me kind of in the dark here, considering episode 19 was released in like... April and ep 20 a week or so ago. Now I don't know any of your earlier releases (I'm only actively following your Daughter of 20 Faces releases right now), I thought you might be treating the series as some kind of a side-project when you have nothing to do or when you're bored or so. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, I'm more than happy that there is a group that subs this gem of a show. Anyway, if this is not the case, is there lack of motivation or available staff members to finish Shion no Ou in a "timely manner"?

I hope this post doesn't offend anyone (too much), since it wasn't written with the intent of doing so. Keep up the good work, your group seems great and the releases that I saw were very enjoyable so far.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on May 29, 2008, 07:15:19 am
I guess you don't know... the episodes were completed a few weeks ago but the feng-shui master has advised against their release 'until the time is right'.  One of them did find its way out on the super tuesday extravaganza (mostly by accident / miscommunication) but his fear is that further releases might tip the sensitive balance between what makes a release a sucess or a failure among the fans.

You can say we are being arbitrary but the truth is the pig and his assistants work through an elaborate protocol to ensure each release, under heaven, is a sucess and there are no duds or failures that would quickly draw the ire of the fan community.
http://forum.live-evil.org/index.php/topic,1467.0.html

For there is a time and place for all things, and the time for the next episode release is not yet.  It will be out when the time is right, and that way, people will rejoice that 'it is a good release' and everyone will be happy. 

"I hope this post doesn't offend anyone (too much), since it wasn't written with the intent of doing so. Keep up the good work, your group seems great and the releases that I saw were very enjoyable so far."
No offense taken, but at the same time, please understand that the main reason you see our releases as 'great' and 'very enjoyable' is precisely b'cos of what goes on behind the scenes and all that.  Every bit of attention is taken to making any given release a sucessful one, sometimes you have a great syncronicity like the one we foresaw on 'super tuesday' and a massive number of releases can be made at the same time with success assured, other times you need to take a more pragmatic, patient approach and we are in the latter state now.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Tofusensei on May 29, 2008, 05:35:12 pm
Yup, what Sindo said! :)

-Tofu
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: inf666 on June 07, 2008, 11:13:42 pm
Of course you guys can release whatever you want whenever you want, no questions asked. Like I said earlier, I recognize your efforts and I am glad that you are subbing Shion no Ou.

I would like to point out though that keeping back the last two episodes of a series is not always a good thing. I for example am only following a small number of series, one of them being Shion no Ou. For me right now there is hardly any other 'temporal supply' so seeing you hold back the episodes frustrates me quite a bit. In the longer run this could lower my regards toward your group. If I know you hold back like that, why should I follow your releases in the future if one of your competitors (even with a lower quality) does the series as well? If you do not have competitors, shouldn't I wait until you have released all episodes to negate such artificial delays and thus create an even more abnormal and unsymmetrical situation?
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Tofusensei on June 07, 2008, 11:31:06 pm
If I know you hold back like that, why should I follow your releases in the future if one of your competitors (even with a lower quality) does the series as well? If you do not have competitors, shouldn't I wait until you have released all episodes to negate such artificial delays and thus create an even more abnormal and unsymmetrical situation?

Let me give you a little history about our group.

1- We are quite possibly the oldest truly active digital fansub group on the internet. We turn 7 in a couple weeks.
2- We have never once stated that we would subtitle shows weekly or monthly. In fact, I've been known to throw out the statement "If you're going to follow a Live-eviL show, be in it for the long haul."
3- There are extenuating circumstances that you obviously are unaware of regarding Shion and the staff that work on it.

We spent 3 years subbing Condor Hero and 3 years subbing Rose of Versailles. It took us 5 years to subtitle Creamy Mami. We've been subtitling Ask Dr. Rin for 5.5 years and have only released 11 episodes so far ^^;

So to answer your questions, by all means, go watch some other group's fansubs. And in the case there are no other fansubs out there (which happens to many of our shows because we do tend to sub shows off the beaten path), if long waits between episodes bothers you, wait until we finish the show to pick it up. There's plenty of anime to check out.

In the meantime, may I recommend watching some of the shows we've completed in their entirety? If you haven't seen Rose of Versailles or Creamy Mami, I'd highly recommend both. They should keep you busy for a while.

Cheers!

-Tofu
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: inf666 on June 07, 2008, 11:44:51 pm
Thank you for the fast reply and the clear up. Shion ep 20 ended with an unbelievable cliffhanger, thats why I am arguing a bit. I hope you understand ;-)

As for the other series: I might try them out. After all, there is nothing else to watch. Somehow most of the new series this and last year are mediocre at best.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: selectiveyellow on June 25, 2008, 10:49:38 am
Quality >>> Speed.

:)

Just think, after all that waiting ep 21 and ep 22 will be worth the wait! It's building the suspense like crazy. You really should try 20 faces out though, it's really good  (Or any of their completed releases!)
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on June 26, 2008, 01:49:30 am
Quality >>> Speed.

:)

Just think, after all that waiting ep 21 and ep 22 will be worth the wait! It's building the suspense like crazy. You really should try 20 faces out though, it's really good  (Or any of their completed releases!)
The pig gave Shion 8.5 oinks (of 10) for suspense and 20 faces 9 oinks for mystery and characters.  So definately give it a shot, but keep in mind you need to watch several episodes before it becomes obvious where it is going.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: inf666 on June 28, 2008, 12:23:56 am
...
Just think, after all that waiting ep 21 and ep 22 will be worth the wait! It's building the suspense like crazy. You really should try 20 faces out though, it's really good  (Or any of their completed releases!)

Yeah I am watching 20 faces. Its also a great series. I just hope they can keep the quality and story up on the current level. As for Shion: No disrespect meant, but I think that waiting too long to release the last two eps is wrong. Suspense builds up over time to a certain point. After that it decreases and could even turn into anger. In a few months most people could not care less as the suspence and the enthusiasm will be gone. But its live-evil's decision and we should be happy that they are subbing it.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on June 28, 2008, 02:00:13 am
story up on the current level. As for Shion: No disrespect meant, but I think that waiting too long to release the last two eps is wrong. Suspense builds up over time to a certain point. After that it decreases and could even turn into anger. In a few months most people could not care less as the suspence and the enthusiasm will be gone. But its live-evil's decision and we should be happy that
If you offer a monkey 3 acorns in the morning, and 4 more in the afternoon, there will be great protest and pleanty of howling.  Yet if you offer the same monkey 4 acorns in the morning, and 3 if the afternoon, he will be content and happy.  Heaven knows no distinction, it knows nothing of monkeys of acorns or even oneself.  For heaven itself is without form, and only one who accepts that his body or self is no more special or different than any other thing that exists in the world can get close to it.

So to deny self and act in harmony with the world is to gain the favor of heaven.  To act for oneself is to invariably lose the favor of heaven and leave oneself at the mercy of the forces of the world.  This is why wise men seldom act in ways that can be seen, for an act that is in perfect harmony with the world will not be evident at all.

Seriously do you keep up with the pigcasts at all?  The pig had a 'town hall' style meeting last Tuesday and no one even mentioned Shion.  More than half the questions asked by the audience had to do with Tuan Tuan.  If anyone was even the slightest bit apprehensive or angry about Shion they were certainly keeping it to themselves.

My point is that, it's not like there is a super-secretive and isolated, arrogant group known as the 'live-evil central comittee' that consists of a pig, a giant panda, and a number of men dressed in black to do the dirty work, gaurded heavily by secret service and meeting every tenth day in a secret undisclosed underground location to discuss top matters of import like how the fans can be screwed over next or how we can prolong the release of Shion another year or so.  The reality here is that the process is perfectly transparent, members of the public are perfectly free to keep up with the daily going's on in the ways already noted -- you can listen to the pigcasts, call the pig over Skype, or attend one of our friendly townhalls in person. 
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Ninyekka on June 28, 2008, 03:22:08 am
Yeah I am watching 20 faces. Its also a great series. I just hope they can keep the quality and story up on the current level. As for Shion: No disrespect meant, but I think that waiting too long to release the last two eps is wrong. Suspense builds up over time to a certain point. After that it decreases and could even turn into anger. In a few months most people could not care less as the suspence and the enthusiasm will be gone. But its live-evil's decision and we should be happy that they are subbing it.

I second that.  As I mentioned elsewhere, when you have the time to forget what happened in the previous episode, that means the pig's strategic calculations miserably failed!!  Owned. 
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: dirkbogarde1001 on June 28, 2008, 11:36:57 pm
If you offer a monkey 3 acorns in the morning, and 4 more in the afternoon, there will be great protest and pleanty of howling.  Yet if you offer the same monkey 4 acorns in the morning, and 3 if the afternoon, he will be content and happy.  Heaven knows no distinction, it knows nothing of monkeys of acorns or even oneself.  For heaven itself is without form, and only one who accepts that his body or self is no more special or different than any other thing that exists in the world can get close to it.

So to deny self and act in harmony with the world is to gain the favor of heaven.  To act for oneself is to invariably lose the favor of heaven and leave oneself at the mercy of the forces of the world.  This is why wise men seldom act in ways that can be seen, for an act that is in perfect harmony with the world will not be evident at all.

Seriously do you keep up with the pigcasts at all?  The pig had a 'town hall' style meeting last Tuesday and no one even mentioned Shion.  More than half the questions asked by the audience had to do with Tuan Tuan.  If anyone was even the slightest bit apprehensive or angry about Shion they were certainly keeping it to themselves.

My point is that, it's not like there is a super-secretive and isolated, arrogant group known as the 'live-evil central comittee' that consists of a pig, a giant panda, and a number of men dressed in black to do the dirty work, gaurded heavily by secret service and meeting every tenth day in a secret undisclosed underground location to discuss top matters of import like how the fans can be screwed over next or how we can prolong the release of Shion another year or so.  The reality here is that the process is perfectly transparent, members of the public are perfectly free to keep up with the daily going's on in the ways already noted -- you can listen to the pigcasts, call the pig over Skype, or attend one of our friendly townhalls in person. 
do you think that through repetition people will forget their original question because as i see it all you're doing is wasting your time.

thanks for the release. [:janfynette]
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: ms308680 on June 30, 2008, 01:09:33 pm
Yes thank you very much, looked forward to this, haven't gotten to watch it yet but I will be able to tonight.  Only one left, and we will all be looking forward to that just as well.

Thanks for subbing this show and look forward to the last release and the continued good work on the other shows you are subbing and have subbed as well.

Thanks
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on July 05, 2008, 04:03:20 am
How did you like that ending?
I would've done it a little differently, but as it was, still pretty good.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: gsimon on July 05, 2008, 09:18:54 am
Thank you so much for the last couple of episodes, it was worth the wait!
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Alioth on July 05, 2008, 06:47:47 pm
I just wanted to give my thanks for all of the time and effort that you guys put into subbing Shion no Ou.  Waiting for the last few episodes to be released has been hard, but its definitely been worth the wait. Thank you again!
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: eschiver on July 05, 2008, 11:42:40 pm
thanks for the releases ^_^

the ending was okay. I wished Hani attacked her lol....
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: inf666 on July 09, 2008, 01:11:41 am
Wow. Superb ending and a job well done by live-evil. Thank you for the last episodes and all of your effort!! The "best" part for me was when Shion threw away her old pendant without a second thought, showing a lot of inner strength. That she would win the game was obvious though. I had to grin at the end when she started to talk. Those cheesy lines were a bit too much.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Selenity on July 14, 2008, 04:39:20 am
The ending was fine, but not great. After all that talk, Shion's spoken comeback was unoriginal, and Hani-meijin's line "We shall see if you're really different from me or not" screamed for a followup, but there was none. Everyone just went on playing Shougi, which we already knew they would do. I would have rather seen if Ayumi and Shion started dating.

The best line was "I will kill your king"..., but she never actually took his king off the board. Since the king has been the main symbol of this series, her literally taking his king from him would have been more dramatic than him just walking off.

Slightly disappointed but still a great series.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on July 14, 2008, 11:59:40 pm
Well my 'perfect' ending would have been Hani-meijin losing to Shion, explaining the murder to the audience (basically that Shion's original parents saw her interest in Shogi as 'cute' or a simple diversion, not a serious matter) and then he reaches into his garb and produces the same knife that he used for the murder several years ago, but rather than threatening anyone, instead plunges it into his abdomen and cuts himself open, as if committing seppuku.  But without anyone else to finish the act, he merely slumps forward on the shogi table and bleeds to death, with his blood dripping down the table.
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Tofusensei on July 15, 2008, 12:38:53 am
That would have been awesome.

-Tofu
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: eschiver on July 16, 2008, 03:40:11 am
Well my 'perfect' ending would have been Hani-meijin losing to Shion, explaining the murder to the audience (basically that Shion's original parents saw her interest in Shogi as 'cute' or a simple diversion, not a serious matter) and then he reaches into his garb and produces the same knife that he used for the murder several years ago, but rather than threatening anyone, instead plunges it into his abdomen and cuts himself open, as if committing seppuku.  But without anyone else to finish the act, he merely slumps forward on the shogi table and bleeds to death, with his blood dripping down the table.

LOL, Shion will be even more scarred :p
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Selenity on July 16, 2008, 06:58:53 pm
I don't know about awesome, but it would have been more interesting. :o
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: Sindobook on August 11, 2008, 10:01:04 pm
Did anyone take any pics of the Shion cosplayers at Otakon?
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: chinaboat on May 08, 2010, 09:54:15 am
I realize the posting on a very old thread is akin to talking about the Academy Awards from two years ago but I don't know where else to post it. On the other hand, because very few are going to read this I don't mind rambling a bit.

Thanks to Yawara I'm now registered with Live-eviL and of course  I immediately went to check out the forums and past/current/dropped projects page where I read all the synopses available, the ones I found interesting I checked for on the torrents page, and then checked ANN's encyclopedia for ratings. The first two I've chosen are Queen Millenia and Shion no Ou. I like QM although the drawing is a bit difficult to digest but Shion is a winner (hence this post) I would like to say, however, it was a good thing that I soon as I realized it was about a game I knew nothing about I checked the wikipedia and got a brief rundown on it. If I hadn't most of the first episode would have been lost on me. I don't know if would be possible to put an asterisk by the title suggesting reading the article before viewing the anime, but doing so increased my enjoyment of the anime immensely.

Just a thought - I look forward to watching other of the older anime. Thanks
Title: Re: Shion no Ou
Post by: chinaboat on May 10, 2010, 07:28:20 am
Also some help seeding would be nice. At this time I've downloaded slightly less than 3.5 of the 3.7G and it will take a day or so to get the last. In that same time I've seeded 13.6G - even though I'm going to definitely hear from my ISP I'll leave it open for five more days. I believe this anime is that important. But a little help would be appreciated.