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Past L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle 2nd Season MASTER THREAD
« on: May 18, 2006, 09:23:26 am »
There's just something... mesmerizing about Tsubasa Chronicle.  I don't know what it is.  I keep telling myself, "This is crap.  That's the lamest line I've ever heard.", but I keep watching it.

There's just something about the characters that make me smile.  The whole Syaoran/Ryuoh friendship, for instance, was enough to make my day feel good (I'll even go as far to say that I'm probably a bit jealous...).  In a lot of ways, I wish the storytelling was a bit better because the characters deserve it.

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle 2nd Season MASTER THREAD
« on: May 16, 2006, 02:15:41 am »
There are other groups doing TRC, but they're not quite as fast as Live-Evil.  These guys are the best of the best, and they do their job well.  I'm sure these guys have some important things to take care of first, and we'll probably see their release way before any other group does.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle Analysis
« on: November 08, 2005, 08:58:42 am »
I think the relationships are resolved through Hitsuzen (inevidability).  Some people are naturally destined for each other (Sakura x Syaoran, Sorata x Arashi, Yukito x Touya).  I think we can make a note that some people are semi-destined (Fujitaka and Clow, Touya and Sakura).  I say semi-destined because they were siblings in CCS and the land of Clow.  However, there's little indication that they know each other in the Hashin Republic or the land of Oto.  Of course, we don't know the full specs of the situation, but I'm certain someone would have said something at one point or another.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle!
« on: November 07, 2005, 10:32:11 pm »
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in the manga he is referred to as 'ou' which means king or ruler (queen is 'joou') he is a guy in that part... now that you lost leave this discussion and find a better anime to watch

That doesn't mean too much considering how much cross gender suprises we get every now and then in the world of anime XP

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle Analysis
« on: November 07, 2005, 05:52:03 am »
Well, the thing is that they are still different people, even though they share the same soul.  I have a feeling we might come across something like this sometime in the series (although I could be totally wrong).

Another thing we need to keep in mind is that time isn't consistent between worlds.  This is why Sakura's feather showed up in Spirit 300 years prior to their arrival, even though it was only a week or so since the adventure started.

This means that the two people with the same soul may not necessarily share it at the same time.  That's a sketchy sentence, as we can't really say what is "the same time".

We might also take into consideration of the prospect of reincarnation, or rather, the possibility that souls move between one body and the next.  It's possible that a soul might have found a persocon's body to be a suitable "vessel" to survive in.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle!
« on: November 05, 2005, 09:19:28 am »
Um, actually, Ashura neither has a wang nor a uterus.

http://www.absoluteanime.com/rg_veda/ashura.htm <-- RG Veda spoilers warning.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle!
« on: November 02, 2005, 08:43:59 am »
Syaoran is definitely my favorite.
I think Ryuo goes under my favorite supporting character.  I hope we see more of him in the future.

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Sakura is my favorite anime character of all time. I've been following her adventures since CCS and she is really cute all the time (except once at the start of the second CCS movie where I was like "Whoa!! She's so badass it can't be Sakura-chan!")

Sakura has always been badass.  Don't forget that in the first episode she kicked Touya in the shins while wearing roller blades.  I swear, I was laughing for a week

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Tsubasa Chronicle Analysis
« on: October 31, 2005, 11:28:00 pm »
Hey there.  Since TC finished it's first season, it has gone pretty quiet lately.  I figured that since it's over, it's time that we do a bit of rigorous analysis of the series.  Feel free to ask questions, write comments, or provide counter arguments.  Now, for the first topic...

Tsubasa Chronicle: Chobits no Kororo or Hearts of the Persocoms

***Warning - May contain spoilers of Tsubasa Chronicle (anime and manga), Chobits, and Clover***

One of the fun things TC has done was bring back some of our old favorite characters from various Clamp classic.  This was explained through the idea that people with the same soul/heart can exist in many worlds.  For example, Sakura from TC and Sakura from Card Captor Sakura would have the same soul.  They are different, because they grew up in different worlds, but the core of their nature is the same.

This brings us to an interesting problem.  On a few occasions, we've come across several characters from Chobits, a story a young man and his Persocom (equivalent to an android).  In particular, we've seen Chii in the first episode, and Sumomo and Kotoko in the last half of TC.

Because of their appearance in another world (in which case we assume that they have organic bodies), would it be logical to assume that they have souls?  If they do, would it follow that their non-human counterparts (Persocoms) also have souls?  This is actually a really complex debate concerning Chobits; whether or not the perfect persocom can be thought of as human, with true emotions of love.

If TC is considered cannon throughout the Clamp universe, we can almost be certain that if someone has a soul in one world, then that person would share the same soul if that person existed in another world (even in a non-human body).

Which brings us to another question.  Does Chii, Sumomo, and Kotoko have souls in the TC plotline?  It is implied that Fye was Chii's creator (if you've read the manga, this turns out to be actually the case).  Now we really can't be sure if TC-Chii has a soul at all.  But then, how do we explain Chii's existence in TC and Chobits?  Do they have the same soul?  Or is it possible that Chii was created in both worlds under the same cosmic influence (hitsuzen?).

This applies to Sumomo and Kotoko as well.  We can't be absolutely sure that Sumomo and Kotoko are human (they're huge and highly disproportionate, which makes them really really scary in my opinion).  Through this reasoning, it is just as likely that the Persocom characters don't have souls at all.

Let's throw another wrench into the mix.  Oruha hails from Clover, a manga series that Clamp released.  In Clover, Oruha is clearly human (or close to) and indeed has a soul.  However, Oruha in the world of Oto is not human.  In fact, she doesn't even have a body.  She's simply artificial intelligence built into a really cool video game.  We might infer from this that Oruha from Oto does indeed have a soul.  In fact, she has the same soul as Oruha from Clover.

With this, we might also say that Chii from Chobits indeed has a soul, along with Sumomo and Kotoko.

Sorry if this feels long.  It didn't come out as smoothly as I originally intended.  Anyway, I would love to hear your ideas and such, especially if you find holes in my reasoning and would like to provide a counterclaim.
One little extra thing I want to throw in:  Are Kudan souls/have souls?  The reappearance of Masayoshi's Kudan seems to point to yes...

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle!
« on: October 27, 2005, 12:06:44 pm »
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Hey you guys notice how what Syaoran has to give up as his precious item is very similar to the plot in CCS?

OMG, I totally remember that.  It was from the second movie.  If I remember right the quote was like
*spoilers
Shaoran: I don't care.  Even if I forget you, I'd just fall in love with you again
spoilers*

Syaoran hasn't changed a bit ;_;

Anyway, great episode (although it seemed to be a weak ending to the season).  I'm glad the animation style is fleshing out.  To be honest, I thought the animation quality in the first few episodes seemed a bit amateur.  The effect is pretty nice though.  It actually feels like Syaoran is getting stronger.  I just hope the adventure doesn't make him hard, though.  I think he's at his best when he's relaxed and smiling (like the times back at the Cat's Eye Cafe).

The break will give me a chance to catch up on the manga.  I just hope Del Rey would freaking release them already.  I'm waiting for xxxHolic, too, so they better pony up.  Hopefully the xxxHolic anime will turn out well.  I kinda wonder when the storyline would start, though.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle!
« on: October 24, 2005, 03:56:17 am »
Maybe the guys at Live-Evil are planning something special for the last episode of the season (Cause we all want to see some Kuro on Fye action, and by that I mean a pillow fight).

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It really depends on who does it.  Funimation did an amazing job dubbing Fullmetal Alchemist (one of my favorite dubs to date), and others like Paranoia Agent and Ghost in a Shell: Stand Alone Complex were great dubs.  Some people find that Cowboy Bebob is one of the few that is better dubbed.

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I wonder what kind of extra features the DVDs would have.  I'd love to see an omake episode of TC.  Chibi Fye and Chibi Kuro-pon running around with the Manjuu Bun spitting out random crap.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: xxxholic movie
« on: October 22, 2005, 10:23:20 am »
I don't think a date has been released.  I might be completely off base, but I think TC and xxxHolic are still playing in the cheap theaters right now.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: Tsubasa Chronicle!
« on: October 22, 2005, 06:53:29 am »
*ignores above reply*

I swear every time I see touya and Yukito I just have to scream because they seem to actually be a couple every time we see them. Like in that reasturaunt in one of the worlds, and the cafe in Outo. All the characters in TRC seem to be so much cuter than in their original series to me.

No kidding.  I saw Tsubasa Chronicle before I had the chance to watch CCS.  Yukito isn't nearly as cute there as he is in TC.  His voice is more feminen, and that kinda bothered me.

I would kill to see a recurrence of Syaoran's boy-crush on Yukito, though.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: xxxholic movie
« on: October 21, 2005, 11:43:15 pm »
I'm just afraid that the movies might get licensed before the dvds are released, which would result in waiting at least 2 years before seeing them ;_;

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