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Title: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: dj_no_clu on February 27, 2005, 11:47:23 pm
want to say episode 11 and 12 is out but it's by l33t-raw i don't know if i can post the link or not or suppose to say this but yeah just wanted to tell y'all umm aim me if you want the link
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Shenanigans on February 28, 2005, 12:28:53 am
you do realize this forum is for things pertaining to live-evil, right?  l33t-raws != live-evil last time i checked...

--
shenanigans
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: OfTheSin on February 28, 2005, 02:20:07 am
dj_no_clu is just trying to do what he/she can to assist.  It's harmless.  dj_no_clu, I'm sure they have the raws already and are well on their way of working through them.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: twinsrox on February 28, 2005, 02:38:55 am
I think dj_no_clu is only trying to help. No need to get defensive and flame him for it, and it's only his 2nd post. Similarily to what OfTheSin said, the raws are generally released really quickly (eg next day), but it takes a while for fan-subbing groups like live-evil to go through every spoken line and translate it into english (etc) hence the later release.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: angelan on February 28, 2005, 03:50:25 am
to carlify yes we do have the raws...no need to worry.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Billthe3 on February 28, 2005, 10:05:47 am
Any guestimate as to when we might be able to expect the subbed versions to be released?
/me patiently but anxiously waiting


My apologies if we aren't supposed to ask.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: dj_no_clu on February 28, 2005, 01:07:41 pm
sorry for the inconvienience but yeah i just wanted to tell that the episode was out and i didn't know what i can or can't say yet cause i'm still new here as you can see, but umm yeah i was too excited lol =P but next time it won't happen again >.<
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: 3sgte on February 28, 2005, 07:10:05 pm
I got really excited when I saw this thread listed in the forum...

;-)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on February 28, 2005, 08:18:24 pm
you not the only one... =P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: OfTheSin on March 01, 2005, 12:07:13 am
Just give it some time.  They are on the way.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 01, 2005, 10:24:34 am
YES THEY ARE! And they will be top of the line as usual. But what else can you expect from a group as good as LE? keep p the good work guys
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Smartguy on March 05, 2005, 05:30:42 pm
hi guys,

its my first time to join this forum.  But LE has been very helpful to me.  I know you guys are doing the best you can for the 11 and 12 eps.  Keep up the good work! :)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: ThundrNeon on March 07, 2005, 03:50:59 am
I've seen episode 11 subbed by another group and I'd say the hold up on schedule is simply on creating the new karaoke for the new opening and ending.  Live-evil has consistantly put out excellent work so be patient plz.  Their version of the sub is well worth the wait.  A similar example of good work and needing patience is seen if you watch One Piece from Kaizoku Fansubs.  Will be looking forward to your release of eps 11 and 12.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: angelan on March 07, 2005, 06:02:50 am
please don't speculate....we just had some technical difficulties, but not to worry, things are back on track :)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 07, 2005, 07:33:33 am
yay go LE Fansubs!
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: litbour on March 07, 2005, 07:48:46 pm
ya the new opening and ending rox....i have see the raw as i understand jap but i dying to get my hand on live-evil sub....haha my jap not very good yet....so their subbing make it easy...lolx......be patience and wait...they are the few fansub grp who go great fansubbing
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 07, 2005, 11:19:34 pm
i think i got the jist of that and i agree totally
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 08, 2005, 09:34:38 am
Oh i've seen ep 11 it's on a cliffhanger now. I'm sure i have no teeth left from grinding them so much..
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: fLinCHa on March 08, 2005, 04:49:19 pm
can u tell us a estimated date for when eps 11 & 12 will be released by live-evil. Im new to these forums is there a place where there are release dates for your anime episodes coming up or do they just get released
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: debchan on March 08, 2005, 06:03:41 pm
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can u tell us a estimated date for when eps 11 & 12 will be released by live-evil. Im new to these forums is there a place where there are release dates for your anime episodes coming up or do they just get released


There is no estimated date.  The episodes will be released when they're done and will be announced on the main page.  
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 08, 2005, 06:05:17 pm
ah FINALLY someone who gets a clue.  thx debchan
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 09, 2005, 04:10:20 am
god some people are just plain stupid, *cough fLinCHaCough*.Look around befoe u post. Kids today need to relax and have some patience, it will come out when it Ready. U have to realize that L-E members have lives to.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: azndvl on March 09, 2005, 02:58:15 pm
lives.....forgot about that...
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 10, 2005, 12:04:44 am
hellbent incase u missed it hes new it and 68 pages is alot to look through when you have a life as well...and thats just the intial d main post but what ever thats my 2 cents for today.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 10, 2005, 12:11:32 am
Yeah I guess U was to hard on him  (I was Drunk alright).  But its common knowledge that u dont ask any subbing group for releases. I realize hes new, but still, everybody that watches subbed anime should know u dont ask for it, it will be out when its ready.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: gob on March 10, 2005, 11:10:10 am
Why do so many people around here have lives?

I just spend all day checking whether the next episode is out yet. :) And I'm 25 so not a kid either. :/

The worst is when it is released and it takes another agonizing 3 days watching the progress of the download. :)

hehe ok perhaps I'll join hellbent and spend the weekend drunk to forget about it.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 10, 2005, 12:49:51 pm
It's the only way gob to get drunk to forget :)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: stainy on March 10, 2005, 03:11:02 pm
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lives.....forgot about that...



Hey that guy ;)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: vollmer on March 11, 2005, 12:06:19 am
Soo.. I guess I'm confused, and feel like starting a flame war...

Why is it that

A) Nobody can ask when it's going to be released?
B) L&E refuses to give a ETA

Granted I don't deal with such large numbers, but I develope a GPL app with a pretty big user base. I get the "Is it done yet" questions all the time. I almost always give them an ETA. If I don't have one, or want them to leave me alone I go "Submit a bug report and I'll put it on the list" -- Translation "Yea it'll get done sometime"

I dunno I guess the point of this little comment is, it seems both rude and slightly elitest to go "Bah You aren't allowed to ask when it's done. We'll let you know when you need to know" Hell even a "We're getting close, no ETA but we've got a majority of ep 11 subbed" or something to that effect would be a lot nicer... Anyway maybe it's just me
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: CooBlueDAB on March 11, 2005, 12:18:28 am
its easy.... because they dont have to release anything... this is a charity... they are giving us a product that takes work, and unknown amounts of time...

and they hear it thousands of times from everyone.. that is why you cannot ask... it is annoying... and you have no right to demand/ask that as if you are a customer BUYING something.

The very fact that you asked that is proof, because this is not the first, second, third or even fourth time that question has been answered.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sun_Tze on March 11, 2005, 12:59:19 am
Main reason: We don't know how long can take the QCing.

Live-Evil always, and i repeat always uses the 3Qcers per episode rule. So... let's just guess that for example, one of the qcers can't qc-it on for example... 2 weeks from now? We have to wait until we get the 3 qcers to check the file, then the editor still has to correct the errors, the encoder has to do multiple encodes until he gets it right, etc.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: vollmer on March 11, 2005, 02:47:53 am
Like I said, I publish a GPL project that is 'charity' and compleatly free and I give ETA's.

I know plenty of other GPL projects that give ETA's. That's not a reason.. (side note I didn't actually ask, I asked why asking was so frowned upon, and that the answers recieved were so snobish)

As for arguging numbers, who says they have to respond? A single blanket "update of status" would work and if poeple want more details like _extact_ times they can SuckItUp (tm) I'm just trying to figure out why no information is given, and the idea of giving out such information seems to be compleatly out of the question.

As for "we don't know how long it's going to take because we don't know when our QC people will get a chance to look at it" Well you could say

"We've sent it to our QC's we are waiting on them"  or even
"We've got the ok from 2/3 QC's waiting on the last one"

both of those are loads better then "We won't tell you! It's out when it's out!"
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sun_Tze on March 11, 2005, 03:15:53 am
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Like I said, I publish a GPL project that is 'charity' and compleatly free and I give ETA's.

I know plenty of other GPL projects that give ETA's. That's not a reason.. (side note I didn't actually ask, I asked why asking was so frowned upon, and that the answers recieved were so snobish)

As for arguging numbers, who says they have to respond? A single blanket "update of status" would work and if poeple want more details like _extact_ times they can SuckItUp (tm) I'm just trying to figure out why no information is given, and the idea of giving out such information seems to be compleatly out of the question.

As for "we don't know how long it's going to take because we don't know when our QC people will get a chance to look at it" Well you could say

"We've sent it to our QC's we are waiting on them"  or even
"We've got the ok from 2/3 QC's waiting on the last one"

both of those are loads better then "We won't tell you! It's out when it's out!"



Want an answer don't you? Ok... let's do a small game: It's somewhere between editing/timing and QC-encoding
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 11, 2005, 03:27:13 am
i cant believe that Sun_Tze gave an answer and you're still complaining.  this is why the "it's out when it's out" is implied.  sure people may not like it but geez whatever happened to patience??  fact is there are people, like Sun_Tze, who give a reasonable request and politely say that it isnt ready and give it some time but yet threads like this pop up..or you go in the chan and have 50 people ask the same question (those people dont even bother to read the topic) so yeah. it's out when it's out. personally, l-e is the least rude group out there. we're friendly..just dont nag us to death :/
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 11, 2005, 03:42:22 am
vollmer, u should Stfu, Sun_Tze gave a more than reasonable answer, u should open ur F#$@en eyes, god damn people just dont understand. If u really want the eps so badly then theres another crappy group that has done half-assed subs, if u dont like theirs, then STFU and wait like everybody else.
Sry if Iam rude, its just I cant take people like u. L-E is doing this for free, they certainly dont have to tell u when its going to be out. Its THEIR project, heck if u can find another group that does a spectacular job like L-E (ID only), then I'll let u drive my S14.
Damn, now back to Drinking.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: vollmer on March 11, 2005, 04:06:44 am
Sun_Tze,

getting back to my origional intention, is there any intention/desire to post that kind of information somewhere on your main page (maybe it's there and I'm blind) What I was trying to get at with my origional post was rather than the no answer which just causes flame wars back and forth or the "Are we there yet" questions is there not something like

Initial D 4th Stage EP 11 & 12
       Step 1 : Raws Recieved  
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: JC on March 11, 2005, 04:54:08 am
I was quite happy just coming in here every day to check if the eps had been released, but after Vollmer's comments, had to register just to make a point.

They could do that if they wanted to, but they're not obliged to, nobody under the GPL, BSD, or any other licencing "scheme" is obliged to give an ETA on their progress, or impeding release. I do some software development myself, and I don't give ETA's, because then it makes people expect too much of you when you go past it, and it makes the pressure even higher on yourself to get the job done and not dissapoint anyone!

Here, they do the job, get the product out, you all rejoice untill the next two eps. I'm honestly gratefull for their stuff, and the fact that they don't give a progress update means it's kinda like a surprise when it gets released (To me, that makes the wait all that much better).

Doing progress reports or even updating a website, even as simple as it might appear to be, to track the progress of something like this is a pain, because there are too many factors in the whole thing to really give an accurate responce about. If anything, they could say "Yes, we have the raws", and then you be quiet untill they go "Yes, we're done, here's the files". Reasons I can think of are along the lines of:

1. Internet connections to send/recieve the data from one person to another when the files are being done.
2. The amount of QC that they do, it makes it quite complex.
3. Possible data corruption, hard disk failure, ISP failure... Hell, any critical component failure is a major setback on a timeline.

Now that I'm sorta done in the whole thing, long explanation short:

"BE PATIENT! They're human just like us, give them a break"
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Shadow096 on March 11, 2005, 04:54:13 am
or you could go here--------->  http://gfs-fs.surugi.com/
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 11, 2005, 06:36:03 am
vollmer sometimes its in the TOPIC on irc.  if you read the TOPIC on irc then you'd know the status of the project. but then this is getting old. sometimes there is a comment about id if mamo-chan is feeling like a uuuhh...err..jerk and will leave something up there.  but really we dont have to give etas/upload a url for every project we do.  mostly as because we have LIVES (i.e i had 2 surgeries last month, some people had exams; you know the things that happen when you dont watch anime) there really is no eta.  it get's done when it gets done.  be happy.  all this complaining and noise doesnt get anything done quicker so why go through it? really the only people who may have any right to wonder where the show they like are akazukin chacha, rov and peach girl people.  who havent had their shows in a longer time than you ID4 people but yet dont give the same hassle as you guys.  why is that?  so relax.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 11, 2005, 03:27:04 pm
i agree i mean honestly would you rather watch the shitty tokyopop IDs? or something good. i dont care when it comes out or how long it takes cause i know if i get too impatient i can go somewhere else and get a POS fix then come back when the good stuff is out. And get a Great Fix. And if I was givin an ETA it would mess with my life because i would check beck alot around the tiem it got close and anothing would get done. Im Glad there is no ETAs
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: gob on March 11, 2005, 05:08:46 pm
lol @ stainy's quoted: "lives.....forgot about that..."

Funny as hell. :)

Sorry if I mentioned the "waiting for it" thing... I was just joining fans and showing that I am eager too.

But I would never ask "when", I can understand that this helps nothing.  Working with release dates could result in something other than the best that we are used to.  And I am grateful to be able to see Initial D which would not be possible without Live-Evil.

Besides - you would just wait longer for the next episode if this one is out sooner!

I don't think I can get enough ID. Its like a drug. Speaking of which... its weekend... here's to all the crazy Japanese bringing us the good stuff! :)

Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: JC on March 11, 2005, 08:26:12 pm
Another thing with ETA's... It's kinda like giving a false promise if it gets pushed back and pushed back for whatever reasons :/

Keep up the good works, the other one I watched of ep 11 just doesn't cut it, you do a much much better job, it's actual translation, and all in english! :D
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 12, 2005, 12:18:50 am
seems to me, that some people are finally getting it. for a sec there, U people confirmed my faith in humanity (then it dropped down to 0)
Good job L-E, btw check out the IDforums.net, and look at the current pole their having, looks like everybody loves L-E subs.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Kyuzo on March 12, 2005, 01:30:47 am
Fist off I would like to thank Sum_tze, Crypticgimp and everyone on the L-E staf (sorry i dont know all your names).

And to Vollmer just wait like the rest of us. The "It will come out when It comes out" rule is how it has always been, and as far as I know it will always be that way. and thats fine with me, and Im shure thats how 99 % of us think.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 12, 2005, 05:02:40 am
thanks kyuzo...i'm sure the other members are trolling about someplace (i dunno all l-e staff names either.  oops :P)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: gumbaloom on March 12, 2005, 06:33:21 am
Hehe I'm inclined to agree with the general opinion of the people posting here..

Simple fact is this, when you're fansubbing you have IRC open and you have substation alpha/medusa open. Fansubbing is one of the rare things where there is such direct contact between the person doing it and the person who derrives benefit from it.

I've been in the game for just over a year now and I can tell you from experience, if you're hanging out in a channel at the same time as trying to get fansubbing work done, its incredibly distracting seeing people asking "when will X be out".  At least for me when such conversation is happening I find it very difficult to concentrate on my work. When you come on IRC to ask "when will ID4 eps XX be out" just remember that you are probably just distracting the people who work on the show from getting the job done.  

Its a common courtesy across the whole fansubbing world that one does not ask when new eps are coming out. L-E is not on its own in not giving "status updates". Look at animesuki theres a pinned thread saying "Dont ask when the next ep will be out".

The simple reason as has been stated many times before is people have lives. I'm doing a Masters Degree and I have a 70 credit dissertation in the works. This comes BEFORE the work I'm doing on typesetting Shin Kaguya Shima Densetsu. However people are happy to wait because they know that there will be quality work done.

Just because someone is being slow with their bit of the job doesnt mean they care about the show it just means that they are sticking to the golden rule of fansubbing

REAL LIFE COMES FIRST

Regards


gumbaloom
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Anonymousse on March 13, 2005, 08:47:58 am
And thus begins my Japanese language lessons....

Faster to learn the lingo than to wait for 11 & 12... (a MONTH now...)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Yoten on March 13, 2005, 11:22:41 am
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And thus begins my Japanese language lessons....

Faster to learn the lingo than to wait for 11 & 12... (a MONTH now...)

Good, then maybe you'll actually do something PRODUCTIVE with your life rather than wet yourself waiting for new fansubs.

Aside from everything that's been said so far, which is all true, you guys are missing another point: Even putting up a statement saying exactly where the episode is in the fansubbing process won't help anything. For one, just like the "Eps 11&12 AREN'T OUT YET!" warning that gets put in the IRC channel's topic, nobody would ever read it. Your average person is just too stupid to read the first thing that pops into their window when entering a channel. If we DID do that though, and it stayed at, say, "typesetting" for three or four days, we'd just have people asking "When is the typesetting going to be done?", and "Why is the typesetting taking so long?". Same stupid questions, different subject -- and this way it'd be a lot more personal since the bottleneck now points at a specific person. I doubt anyone wants the entire fanbase breathing down their neck personally.

So in other words, remember that you guys who actually pay attention to our announcements are the minority by an extremely large margin. While more "communication" might satisfy some of you guys (but probably won't -- see my points above), it wouldn't alleviate any of the irritation WE receive. Things should hopefully be getting back on track soon, so just keep waiting. Or come to L-E's IRC channel so I can abuse you to alleviate stress/boredom.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 13, 2005, 02:41:47 pm
sounds like you can't even have your own say in this forums without some random going flaming at you.

clint.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Yoten on March 13, 2005, 04:56:57 pm
Hope that wasn't directed at me, as his post was clearly him whining, angrily at that, about how long the subs are taking. And you can't say actually going out and learning another language, much less one that applies to your hobbies, is a bad thing. And finally, it's funny yet not unexpected how I'm still considered random. I like it. :P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 13, 2005, 09:09:59 pm
i would love to try and learnt he language but i just dont have the time anymore unless someone has some good tips on it i mean ive treid the whole tapes thing from the library i jsut didnt have time to listen to tapes and focus on work at the same time. is there like a website or something that could help out with this process that anyone knows about?
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Yoten on March 13, 2005, 10:00:57 pm
Buy a real textbook (the Genki series is good). Or even better, join a class. At the very least, a university near you should have one.

It's very easy to say "Oh, I want to learn Japanese", or "I'll learn it someday", but you will never get anywhere until you start taking action. If you honestly care enough, go do it. Hell, I'm studying abroad for a full year in Japan right now, and even that didn't take TOO much effort. Just a lot of paperwork... :x
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 13, 2005, 11:53:59 pm
My biggest problem is that im still in school and work takes up most of the rest of my time so a textbook series would be great thanks for the idea im going to look into it. Thanks
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 14, 2005, 12:12:54 am
the problem with those Internet courses are, that if u are like me, u need a real live to person to comminicate with, trust me, its so much easier to go to a class with a bunch of people and listen, than doing it through the internet alone with no help.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: debchan on March 14, 2005, 01:18:04 am
Yeah, hellbent.  I need to hear the language, which is why after a few months of studying on my own, I signed up for some classes.  

Brokenimage, there are no shortcuts.  A webpage is going to give you basics, but pretty soon you'll hit a wall and get frustrated (at least, that was my experience).  The Pimsleur audio courses are pretty good, and they only take a half an hour a day.  But even so, nothing replaces the classroom experience and having a teacher to explain the things you still won't understand.

[sarcasm] I hope the newbie that whined earlier really does attempt to learn Japanese.  It will only take a few years, and then s/he/it can watch raws without having to wait for those inconsiderate fan subbers. You know, those jerks who provide subs for us, despite not getting anything out of it except whining and hystericals demands for updates and releases. [/sarcasm]  
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 14, 2005, 05:05:05 am
As they said before they do it for themselfs and there freinds to share. Were only lucky that they would share it with us.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Anonymousse on March 14, 2005, 06:39:08 am
I guess people are too busy chatting on IRC about how other people should keep their damn mouth shut about 11 & 12 to actually get the damn things done.

Recently fansubbing has gotten out of hand with fonts that change shape and morph and do all sorts of crazy stuff that while cool at first, makes you wonder "Hm... How much longer did it take to do this fancy stuff?"

Let's get on with the story, already.

And if for some odd reason you guys should ever have Korean material in need of translation, I'll gladly help.  I just refuse to do the fancy font. :P

And I understand a little bit of Japanese, considering that I was stationed in Okinawa for 2 years as a Marine.  I was too busy getting drunk and getting into trouble to actually learn the language.  Silly me.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Yoten on March 14, 2005, 07:32:15 am
I agree, karaoke stylings are far more trouble than they're worth. I myself was happy back in the day when they were just static lines of text at the top/bottom of the screen with the romaji and translation, but I don't doubt that we'd get tons of complaining from the community that we were "lazy" if we or ANY group started doing that now. Overblown effects are expected now.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 14, 2005, 07:34:47 am
Yeah i would like to learn the basics before i take a class so i can sign up when i head out for college next year. so a textbook or a good sudio course is something that will help me get the basics down so that will be step one step 2 classes step 3...i dont know maybe ill head to japan for a while...step 4 spend alot of time there =P.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: 3sgte on March 14, 2005, 03:54:18 pm
Must not feed trolls...

Slaps self...
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 14, 2005, 10:56:42 pm
its this thread's fault for no id4.  hope you're happy...
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: debchan on March 14, 2005, 11:26:26 pm
*sighs*  No, not happy, but not surprised.  

Can't say I blame you.

P.S. Sorry for feeding the troll.  Will curb the impulse next time.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: mrgeoff on March 15, 2005, 12:33:02 am
:( and I was waiting so patiently for such greatness from LE
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 15, 2005, 12:49:26 am
=( Well we cant really blame LE there was alot of complaining(which i hope none of what i said was believed to be so because i wasnt) And please dont take what im about to say as impatience or complaining its just out of curiousity that i ask and for an informative purpose but when you say no ID4 do you mean ever or that its delayed. Again im not complaning not being impatient i just want to have my facts straight.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 15, 2005, 04:51:00 am
hahahhahhaha, good for L-E, ur the first subgroup
(as far as I know) to take drastic measure like this, all other groups threaten the same thing but never carry it out. I say good job L-E, sure as hell the patient ones will wait, let the wicked suffer. hahahahahah.

P.S. though it will be sad if u mean no ID ever.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: 3sgte on March 15, 2005, 02:12:26 pm
If I were a mod here (and I certainly am not! ) there would be a VERY BOLD warning about asking when xxxx will be out.

If someone asks, lock thier account, edit the post to say user banned, why they were banned, and add thier ip to the ban list for the server that hosts the trackers.

It would be important to have someone moderate who is not working to produce the new subs. They have real work to do, as opposed to the ignoble sewer sloughing that is moderating an online forum.

This is just my 2 cents, please remember that there are a legion of us that appreciate the work (fansubbing) being done by those who have talent. (unlike the talentless me)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 15, 2005, 02:46:41 pm
Tho that would defeat the the purpose of the forum wouldn't it? banning someone with out a warning of notice. I find that a bit unfair.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 15, 2005, 03:29:44 pm
if we did that then half the forum would be gone :P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: CooBlueDAB on March 15, 2005, 11:29:36 pm
I don't see a problem with losing half the forum if they don't feel like following the rules and acting like butts...

But who knows, maybe you like to take your stress out on those ignorant fools, hence keep them around... muahahaha  :-p
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 16, 2005, 12:03:51 am
I agree with 3sgte, There should be someone who mods the forum that is outside of subbing. People who dont follow the rules, are just arrogant and plain stupid. so what is this forum is cut in half, that means all the stupid ones will disapear.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 16, 2005, 05:22:29 am
it would more likely be more then half..
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 16, 2005, 07:26:11 am
how nice..all blood thirsty cut throat people you are.  alas i am just a peon so take my frustrations out on the dumb i shall do :X
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: CooBlueDAB on March 16, 2005, 09:19:59 am
muahaha my analytical personality and reasoning skills are unmatched MUAHAHAH!... Now besides early education, what can I do with this lol
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 17, 2005, 01:17:52 am
You can build a better internet! or just try to impress some chick =P or what ever else you want
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 17, 2005, 01:20:15 am
yeah well l-e qc team is synonymous with the word peon.  but when you see the "thanks to the l-e qc team" you'll know it was myself and a bunch of good folks who helped make your id4 just a bit better :P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Zero.Freedom on March 17, 2005, 05:56:20 am
Ah I thanks you LE for doing the ID4 as best as you can and also thanks you for the top quality you put into so take as much as time you needed good job.  
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 17, 2005, 11:43:43 pm
yeah it is really appreciated(i think thats right spelling) i dont think i could watch ID4 with out you guys. i tried another subgroup and as i suspected... it was bad. It really gave me alot more respect for your top notch work.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: OfTheSin on March 18, 2005, 01:03:45 am
Oh, you could watch ID4 without LE.  However, would you be getting the same thrills from it's high resolution, good sound and subs from another group?  We would have to see.

-ots
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: EvoHo on March 18, 2005, 05:47:23 am
quick question...how come virtually no other group does initial d ? i mean how many freakin' groups did we need to sub Naruto but only 1.23 sub groups actually do initial d...... is there a curse on it like if u start subbing it, u will start seeing unknown images and then u recieve a call that say u have 7 days to live and then u die rite after u finish subbing it?.....i will continue supporting LE but i just dumbfounded as to how many groups will sub something that has basically been beaten to death but won't touch initial d.....then again, my theory may still hold true and the reason we don't have fast releases is because the LE crew is being killed off too quick to be replaced (haha....anyways thanks LE for the releases and keep up the quality of the work)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: tango on March 18, 2005, 10:04:29 am
maybe they don't feel worthy?
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: gob on March 18, 2005, 02:30:34 pm
Initial D is the only anime I am watching. :/

Heh has anyone else watched that cappuchino speed off in epsode 10's end about 50 times? :p
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sun_Tze on March 18, 2005, 06:20:39 pm
Quote
quick question...how come virtually no other group does initial d ? i mean how many freakin' groups did we need to sub Naruto but only 1.23 sub groups actually do initial d...... is there a curse on it like if u start subbing it, u will start seeing unknown images and then u recieve a call that say u have 7 days to live and then u die rite after u finish subbing it?.....i will continue supporting LE but i just dumbfounded as to how many groups will sub something that has basically been beaten to death but won't touch initial d.....then again, my theory may still hold true and the reason we don't have fast releases is because the LE crew is being killed off too quick to be replaced (haha....anyways thanks LE for the releases and keep up the quality of the work)


Easy: Spaced episodes release (2 months between each 2 eps, as you know) and loads of car information :)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: BNR34GTR on March 18, 2005, 06:44:30 pm
So wait a second, I'm a newbie and I'm having a hard time understanding this. You guys get the release of the Raw of Initial D episode....then it takes 2 months PER episode, or 2 months for BOTH episodes. Cuz like... Waiting untill freakin 2006 to see the end of Project D is gonna suck some Donkey nutz. Not trying to bitch, but like... Initial D is like a drug. And I haven't had my fix... O_o;
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sun_Tze on March 18, 2005, 06:47:17 pm
Quote
So wait a second, I'm a newbie and I'm having a hard time understanding this. You guys get the release of the Raw of Initial D episode....then it takes 2 months PER episode, or 2 months for BOTH episodes. Cuz like... Waiting untill freakin 2006 to see the end of Project D is gonna suck some Donkey nutz. Not trying to bitch, but like... Initial D is like a drug. And I haven't had my fix... O_o;


No, no. Every 2 episodes are aired every 2 months in Japan :P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: BNR34GTR on March 18, 2005, 06:50:00 pm
Phew... 'kay... my heart isn't gonna implode now. thnx. Btw... What's the ETA on the Fansubbed 11 and 12??? Know a date yet?
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: crypticgimp on March 18, 2005, 06:54:43 pm
it also sucks..so why sub something so bad?  i just dont get we are subbing it but i am a peon and not allowed to think and just do as i am told :x
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 18, 2005, 09:39:37 pm
please dont ask fro ETAs it gets them delayed. and i have watch the capp speed off like 1000000000 times.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 19, 2005, 01:19:18 am
uh oh, he said something he shouldnt have, Dont  ever ask sub group when eps are going to be out, it is the (un)written rule. It will be out when its ready, just have patience.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Anonymousse on March 19, 2005, 06:44:25 am
To hold off my urge for some high speed action, I'm going out to Ohio this weekend and buying a '97 240SX...

Of course the obligatory SR20DET swap is in its near future~

Get sideways!
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Kyuzo on March 19, 2005, 10:04:02 am
Ok I know we are kind of getting of topic but,
Anonymousse, thats nice the 240sx is a sweet car when its done right. I Have one of the sister cars to the 240sx, A 94 300ZX (see pic to the side)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: applejax on March 20, 2005, 04:10:00 am
on Mar 18th, 2005, 3:44pm, BNR34GTR wrote:
So wait a second, I'm a newbie and I'm having a hard time understanding this. You guys get the release of the Raw of Initial D episode....then it takes 2 months PER episode, or 2 months for BOTH episodes. Cuz like... Waiting untill freakin 2006 to see the end of Project D is gonna suck some Donkey nutz. Not trying to bitch, but like... Initial D is like a drug. And I haven't had my fix... O_o;


actually the anime will be finished this year; the last 2 eps will be shown next month
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 20, 2005, 10:37:22 am
do you know if they plan on a stage 5 cause i know 4 is finished on what april 13 or something i mean i dont see how they can wrap it up in 2 eps so im pretty sure that a stage 5 is obligated anyone know?
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: BloodKnight on March 20, 2005, 12:57:27 pm
No stage 5 announcement as of yet or any rumors at that.   They don't HAVE to make a Stage 5, if you want  to know what happens after Project D go read the Manga, but I'd assume that they will probably begin work on a Stage 5 in the next year if they haven't already.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: applejax on March 20, 2005, 01:30:17 pm
from what i heard project D is the final stage they'll make...i guess they want the people to read the manga for it?  hopefully that's not the case; i wouldn't mind seeing another stage.  
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: inuy4sha on March 22, 2005, 02:57:45 pm
how many episodes is Project D ? (me = newbie as every1 here)
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Sti_Brumby on March 22, 2005, 03:22:08 pm
14 Eps for PD stage 4.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: JC on March 22, 2005, 03:24:51 pm
From what I can see of the new intro and how the story has progressed... It wouldn't make all that much sense to just chop it off now... Would leave all these things in the new intro that would very possibly be in new episodes, just gone... A big tease in a way :P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: hellbent on March 22, 2005, 11:55:16 pm
Actuallly, theres is going to be 2 more eps. At least thats what one link says
http://www.obkikaku.com/initial/index.html
if u read jap, then u know what it means. Or u could use babelfish for rough idea.

Damnm, looks like I cant post the quote, since it wont allow me to copy Jap characters.
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Yoten on March 23, 2005, 04:53:33 pm
At the rate this is going, we'll have TWO generic Initial D threads. Sure, the main one's hugely bloated by now, but if a new one's going to be made it should be more structured and not tacked onto a thread about eps 11-12. Mods, think you could whip something up? Merge, lock, whatever. :P
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: Brokenimage0 on March 25, 2005, 03:46:34 am
the mangas as far as the book store can tell me the 16th one isnt even available yet and in  the 15th one i just got hes just then racing the mr2 but i know there is more out elsewhere i live in florida btw
Title: Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
Post by: GooWakJai on March 25, 2005, 05:25:52 am
man  the web site for the initial D movie was good but the server was hecka slow.  I mean it took more than 30 min for me to buffer the trailer and it crashed at then end after seeing like 45 sec of it =( but it was a lil bit worth the watch.  Wat I didn't understand was how come the FC was chasin after the 86 and behind FC was the GTR.  Wasn't it suppose to be GTR chasing 86 and FC behind the 2 of those cars?  if yall wanna see the trailer, its www.initialdthemovie.com