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« on: April 22, 2004, 01:19:36 am »
>>of course what i say goes, i'm pretty much the leader, and i know the most JP in the group. -_-; and duh this is charity work, translators get NOTHING out of fansubbing. we can always just watch the raws. so take your pissy little comments and shove them. :3
who do you think you are? God? No, what you say DOESN'T go. You made mistakes in the translation, accept that and humble yourself and say "Sorry" and move on. stop acting like a little girl and grow up. you do get something out of fansubbing: a power trip.
>>i was not told that this would be a joint when Kyo asked me to do it.
>>I just would like to rectify that a bit, I think that translators do get something out of it or they wouldn't be doing it.
I do this almost purely because Kyo begs, and i want my group to have a popular show. and the show amuses me. and this is an easy way to get raws. it also improves my TL ability a bit, but i can always go elsewhere for that. so yes, this is charity. why are you making such a fuss over the truth? being charity doesn't make it be worthless. o.O
oh, poor you. your arm was twisted and someone dragged you through the wringer to do the joint. so much for your charity work. what, you think because you begrudgingly accepted to translate that we must now kiss your ass and prostrate before you as if you were some oriental despot? all hail her majesty rp! for she is all wonderful and gracious and taking her precious homework time to help us poor commonors! by calling this "charity work" you have the wrong idea. this is a labour of love. we do this because we want to; and if, in some small way, we make other's lives a bit better, and relieve their boredom, then so be it. but without you this still goes on.
>>ppl better listen to me because otherwise... i'll leave. it's very simple. i don't have the time to deal with people giving me a lot of BS over nothing. i translate for 5 groups, and have a good chunk of homework, so... if i don't like it, i'm not gonna stick around. get it?
really though, ALL i'm asking you to do is to not change the edited script w/o telling me and putting it on the dump. i really don't see why you're insisting on being an ass about it. i always thought it was normal good manners to tell the writer if you're changing stuff, but i guess not. my bad.
Nor do WE have time to deal with your bs. leave then. you only whore yourself around to so many groups for your own gain; getting raws, gaining experience etc. No one needs to inform you beforehand of changes. I ask again,Who do you think you are?" changes are made all the time. Even my QC changes/suggestions aren't followed and i don't find out until the show comes out. So what? Hubris is a very fatal thing, and if you dont watch it then you are a doomed girl. ALL we are asking is that you humble yourself and not think your shit doesn't stink. there is NO need whatsoever for you to make a scene like this. and, frankly, i think you are doing this because it gets you off. you get a rush by being a bitch, and that's just not acceptable.
>>It makes me feel like "Why did I bother trying to help make it a better script in the first place?", you know?
and then when you change stuff, it makes me feel lke "why did I translate this in the first place? obviously Tofu thinks he could do better because he changed it w/o even telling me." you know?
>>that you think your opinion's better than mine, and therefore you can do what you like. what gives?
again, why not accept that you made a mistake and that *maybe* someone else's opinion is better than yours. NOONE is right everyday, all the time, 24/7 and the fact that you seem to think you are the end-all-be-all of japanese translating is a reflection of your immature character. your attitude contradicts what you say. you say you want to gain experience and learn more yet you act as if a stick is shoved up your ass when someone corrects your mistakes? am i missing something here?
i might act bitchy but i believe having my stuff changed w/o notification is very valid reason for being upset. you however, have no valid reason besides "wahh i got bitched at for changing something that was wrong."
no, you don't have a valid reason for being upset. you made a mistake, it happens all the time. what do you want us to kiss it for you to make it better? do act this way when you break a nail?
the whole point i am trying to make is that you need to humble yourself. you are NOT God. you DO NOT know everything about translating. and furthermore you need to change that attitude, quick. and if you dont like the criticism, then leave and go do your homework.
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