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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: October 02, 2005, 03:12:48 am »
Thanks, gumbaloom!!

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: September 19, 2005, 04:41:08 am »
Thanks for the update, gumbaloom!

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: August 03, 2005, 10:08:17 pm »
if u all really want to watch ep 16 go to www.thewirdsdomain.com

No thanks.  I'd rather wait for a decent sub.

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: July 28, 2005, 01:46:54 pm »
Thanks for the update, gumbaloom!

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: June 30, 2005, 07:32:55 pm »
I deal with getting a quality product to customers everyday, and if there is a delay, the profressional thing to do, is to tell them.  I work in a printshop, and printers and computers do not always agree, so there are alot of techincal problems that i run into.  but you just have to face it, and say i'm workin on it.  I have nothing against the L-E team, or their work.  Most of what i've been talking about, isn't always about them, it's really a generalization of how things seem to run with fan-subbing groups. 

The difference here is that your company is selling something.  When people pay for a product, there are certain expectations they have, such as the product will be of a certain quality and it will be in available upon demand. 

However, L-E is not being paid for anything.  The "product" is free of charge.  They have no obligations to meet "customer" expectations and/or demands. 

I don't know why people have such a hard time recognizing this.  Fansub groups don't owe anyone anything, no, not even a time frame for releases. 

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: March 19, 2005, 04:02:56 am »
I think Takumi is progressing.  He's learning something every race, even if it's something as basic as figuring out the difference between how he drives and how his opponent drives.  He's then applying what he's learned to each new race, and growing as a driver (even Bunta sees this when Takumi talks about needing to drive on Akina).

I think one of this big differences between this stage and previous ones is that all of the life lessons seems to learned by side characters, not Takumi.  However, this doesn't bother me, as Takumi himself has said he doesn't have time to think about anything but driving right now.

(And OT or not, I love it when you guys talk cars. *g*)

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
« on: March 14, 2005, 11:26:26 pm »
*sighs*  No, not happy, but not surprised.  

Can't say I blame you.

P.S. Sorry for feeding the troll.  Will curb the impulse next time.

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
« on: March 14, 2005, 01:18:04 am »
Yeah, hellbent.  I need to hear the language, which is why after a few months of studying on my own, I signed up for some classes.  

Brokenimage, there are no shortcuts.  A webpage is going to give you basics, but pretty soon you'll hit a wall and get frustrated (at least, that was my experience).  The Pimsleur audio courses are pretty good, and they only take a half an hour a day.  But even so, nothing replaces the classroom experience and having a teacher to explain the things you still won't understand.

[sarcasm] I hope the newbie that whined earlier really does attempt to learn Japanese.  It will only take a few years, and then s/he/it can watch raws without having to wait for those inconsiderate fan subbers. You know, those jerks who provide subs for us, despite not getting anything out of it except whining and hystericals demands for updates and releases. [/sarcasm]  

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Current & Future L-E Projects / Re: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12
« on: March 08, 2005, 06:03:41 pm »
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can u tell us a estimated date for when eps 11 & 12 will be released by live-evil. Im new to these forums is there a place where there are release dates for your anime episodes coming up or do they just get released


There is no estimated date.  The episodes will be released when they're done and will be announced on the main page.  

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: February 25, 2005, 09:12:39 pm »
Honestly.  Am I the only one here who remembers waiting MONTHS for VHS fansubs, and usually crappy, multi generation ones at that?  A week or two is nothing.

And yeah, have to agree with Angelan.  If you want to try another group, go ahead.  But I've yet to see even one that came close to the quality of LE-IDE.  

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: November 26, 2004, 04:19:11 pm »
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I say link away, if other groups care enough to release theirs in a timely manner i say they should be applauded. if some people here are gracious enough to post those links they should be thanked not condemned.. and if other people are too loyal or should i say STUBBORN to click those links to some already subbed initial D goodness, they dont have to.. because as i know, ignorance is bliss.

and i already calculated that this would get some of ur panties in a bunch so flame away. stuff had to be said.


It might be a gracious thing to do for the people who can't wait, but make no mistake; it's rude to L-E.  

I don't understand the fuss about waiting.  I mean, everyone realizes that it's two months between releases anyway, right?  You're going to end up waiting one way or  another.

It's been said before, but it bears repeating; subbers do this for free.   They are gracious enough to share with us, however, they don't owe us a timely release.  They don't owe us anything at all.  

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: October 31, 2004, 05:53:59 pm »
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For those of you who are patient enough to wait for our subs things are moving along a little.  


Thanks for the update, Spymon!  It will be worth the wait. :)

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: October 31, 2004, 05:52:34 pm »
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EPISODES 7 & 8 SUBBED!!!!  
Ok, I know that you guys will not read back up the posts so Im posting this again, until L-E releases their version.


I do, actually.  3 notices are more than enough, don't you think?

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: October 17, 2004, 07:16:15 pm »
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So 7 & 8 released in Japan today. Anybody know where you can DL the Raw's??



http://l33t-raws.org/bt/

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Past L-E Projects / Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« on: September 19, 2004, 07:40:39 pm »
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alright.. we dont need LE anymore!

Thank buddah that we dont have to rely on them! Who knows how much longer they would take.


If you honestly feel that way, why are you here in their forum?  I'm sorry if this comes off as rude, but it's fans like you that make people who provide stuff for free stop providing.  

This attitude of entitlement just boggles me.  You're not paying L-E to provide a service.  No one owes you a free fansub.  You are not automatically entitled to get what you want, when you want it.  Unless you've ever provided something on the internet, you have no idea what a thankless job it is.  People grab your product (screen captures, vids, scanlations, subs, whatever), use and abuse your bandwidth, and do they ever say thank you?  Rarely.  More often they complain, whine, bitch and moan that you're either not providing new stuff fast enough, that the quality sucks, or that you're not providing the content they want.   It's a wonder to me that any group bothers to stick around and still provide after a few months of this crap.  

I'm sure everyone here is eagerly waiting for the L-E subs to drop.  I know I am.  However, it's clear that something is holding the project in check.  I don't know what, and I don't care.  L-E will release when they are ready.   I would rather wait for quality, especially since I watch the episodes more than once.

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