Topic: Initial D 4th Stage comments... - Archive Topic (Locked)

[mikala]

http://avexmode.jp/animation/initial/initial.html

[xiaochefy]

whens episode 5 and 6 coming out !?

[mikala]

when it's ready ?  [smiley=chacal_one333.gif]

[GilliamII]

whens episode 5 and 6 coming out !?

If one goes to the link that was provided you can see that the schedule looks something like this:

Episodes 1 & 2 - April 17, 2004
Episodes 3 & 4 - June 19, 2004
Episodes 5 & 6 - August 21, 2004
Episodes 7 & 8 - October 16, 2004
Episodes 9 & 10 - December 18, 2004
Episodes 11 & 12 - February 19, 2005
Episodes 12 & 14 - April 16, 2005

Bear in mind I can't read a lick of Japanese, but you don't need to be able to read it to use common sense.  Much as this schedule is going to annoy me and plenty of others, that's how it has to be.  Don't expect any new episodes before these dates.

[MrFrustration]

Way back when, there was a query about the translation of Dogfight.
Now I don't speak Japanese. Period. But I am very good at finding things. Like an ENGLISH version of Dogfight.

(Garbled) Bring the Noise
(Garbled to death.)
Are you psyched(?)
He's so fast oh my god like a meteorite.
It could be only one shot that is it alright.
(Garbled)
Don't wanna make a big wreck so I'm gonna roll and roll
Cause it's a dogfight!
(Whatsherface is replaced.. here's the chorus.)
Way way way too garbled for quite some time.
Realize that you are the victor,
(Garbled.)
(End Chorus)
This is your ecstasy.
Yeah, ha ha, this sound is everywhere.
Left to (Garbled) - like a heavyweight.
(Garble/Distortion) Like a show - more distortion/garble.
Yo!
Hey learn to run, baby this will make you fly.
Get down a love just a move into (Garbled)
Get down a (Garbled). So the (Garbled - Heavy Distortion)
Selling me fear the vibe and corrodity??
What's up (Too Garbled/Fast)
And you think no matter what it's possibility.
It's only once by a way, so I wanna run and run, cause it's a dogfight!
(Garbled)
Listen to the (Garbled) on fire, (Garbled)
Dogfight!
(Garbled) Realize that you are the victor, count down(?)
(Corruption / Distortion) This is your ecstasy.
You memorize (garbled) That's my dream that's my goal.
(Garbled/Distortion)
Remember this time, is never ending, woah. As long as you can take (DISTORTION).
(Totally garbled to me, heavy distortion.)
Everybody here say yeah, yeah yeah, say yeah.
Somebody will find ya everybody respond c'mon c'mon scream.
(Chorus)

Better than nothing..

[xiaochefy]

If one goes to the link that was provided you can see that the schedule looks something like this:

Episodes 1 & 2 - April 17, 2004
Episodes 3 & 4 - June 19, 2004
Episodes 5 & 6 - August 21, 2004
Episodes 7 & 8 - October 16, 2004
Episodes 9 & 10 - December 18, 2004
Episodes 11 & 12 - February 19, 2005
Episodes 12 & 14 - April 16, 2005

Bear in mind I can't read a lick of Japanese, but you don't need to be able to read it to use common sense.  Much as this schedule is going to annoy me and plenty of others, that's how it has to be.  Don't expect any new episodes before these dates.

well its already past 2 days already can't wait for it to come out man !!!!!

[GilliamII]

well its already past 2 days already can't wait for it to come out man !!!!!

True, but bear in mind that as someone said earlier in the thread, quality takes time.  Fansubbing is not a very fast process, or so I should think.  Besides getting a high quality video/audio track the script needs to be translated and checked, the subtitles need to be timed properly and once everything is what it should be when it should be the video can be rendered and compressed and such.  Plus, as this thread has shown, I'm sure the translators are checking the script thoroughly now to keep from repeating any of the previous errors they have made.

Patience is a virtue.  As you say its only been two days. I'm sure the L-E crew will have some eye candy very soon for us to drool over.  

[xiaochefy]

ohh okie dokie sowwie heh ^^ cause i just missed another great anime like dear boys act II well keke i will wait on for the great initial-D hee

[Bukkake-Kun]

 Plus, as this thread has shown, I'm sure the translators are checking the script thoroughly now to keep from repeating any of the previous errors they have made.

I am a very meticulous person when it comes to spelling, yet I haven't seen any typos or mistakes in these translations.

Some might argue about the V6/B6 error, but I sympatize with Live-Evil since I agree that some Japanese have awful english pronunciation

That woman that sings in the intro drives me nuts! It's been years since Initial D season 1 aired and she still hasn't figured out how to pronounce fi-re. Since episode 3 showed me the lyrics of the theme song, I realized that she is even worst than I imagined. I'd prefer it if she sticks to singing in Japanese, which I think she does very well. But still, the initial D soundtrack isn't nearly as engrish as that awful hack sign intro...

Anyway, I agree with others who have said that Live-Evil does a very professional job with these translations. Plus their group name is nice. I didn't realize that it was a palindrome until I came to this place!

[Spymon]

The ID4 eps were nice to qc as well since there were very few in any clear errors.  Differences in opinion yes, but nothing you could point at and say was just plain wrong.  I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new eps!

[crazysmoke]

well "Fire" is a hard word for non english speakers. ever think about it its strange kinda , its not "Fi-re" cuz that makes "Fi" then "re" which is more like the "re" in "remember". Its more along the lines of "F-ire" with the ir making a kinda "y" sound. Also japanese don't have a "R" sound they replace it with "L" go figure.

So when is the next subs coming out? From what i noticed it comes out usually 5 days after the Japanese release.

[Mr_Nice_Guy]

 ;)I wonder when episode 5 & 6 are gonna come out

[Bukkake-Kun]

well "Fire" is a hard word for non english speakers.

English is my 3rd language and I don't find the pronounciation of the word fire hard at all. I assume any human (aside from people like Forrest Gump) can hear any word in any language and mimick it after a few tries. If I were to travel to Russia, China or India, I'm sure I can come up with good interpretations of their local greetings expressions very quickly.

That ignorant woman probably practiced her song many times before recording it, so she had plenty of opportunity to brush up on her pronounciation. And fire is not the only word that she screws up, her renditions of "gambler", "backfire" and "ecstacy", among others, are very shitty too. Prior to seeing the lyrics, I thought those sounds weren't supposed to be english.

ever think about it its strange kinda , its not "Fi-re" cuz that makes "Fi" then "re" which is more like the "re" in "remember". Its more along the lines of "F-ire" with the ir making a kinda "y" sound.

In many ways it is fi-re. Take tire, mire, dire, wire, etc... The 2nd part of all those words are pronounced in the same manner. Nothing irrational there.

But I have to concede that there are people like Georges W. Bush who probably say fiya. So if that woman was genuinely trying to mimick a rancher, then I retract this one part of my criticism. However, in Canada, UK, Northern US, they do not say fiya.

Also japanese don't have a "R" sound they replace it with "L" go figure.

You've got it in reverse. Ever heard a Japanese talk about elections?

[crazysmoke]

i guess she messes up on all the english words. if she got fire wrong, she gonna get backfire wrong too.  i don't think she's tryin to copy Bush tho... well i hope not. well i guess she can say 'blast" pretty well in the outro. but i've heard an english version of the intro. now thats really bad i thought it was still in japanese.

Wait now that i think about it if you were in Japan and there was a fire and a japanese person wanted to tell you there was one in english and they didn't know english that well. they probably yell "Fi-ya fi-ya".

Since I had it backwards someone go figure how the "L"s are "R"s. well its more like they use 1 sound for both cuz i noticed it alot when my japanese teacher talks.

[GilliamII]

I would be curious to find out how many of the native English speakers that find fault with this woman's English singing pronounce their English perfectly.  I would surmise very few.  I know for a fact that in my nearly 24 years of speaking the language I do NOT have perfect pronounciation and even at times spelling and punctuation.  Accents, lisps, drawls and other such speech variances change from person to person and region to region.  And that's just native speakers.  This woman's primary language is Japanese, a language sharing extremely little with the English language.  I'm sure those whose primary language is not english can attest that part of your native tongue stays with you in every language you speak.  My father, as an example, moved to the States from overseas in the 1970s able to speak some but hardly perfect english.  After more than 30 years of speaking it every day he still retains some small part of his native tongue pronounciation of letters and words.  For her to retain some of her Japanese speaking habits even while speaking in English would be only natural.

What I also find amusing is that some of the same people criticizing a Japanese woman's english do not have a firm grasp of the language in the first place.  In just the few posts between this and my last there are several instances of people using incorrect words and/or spelling.  Spelling is forgivable as typos do indeed happen, but to use a completely wrong word while mocking pronounciations and speaking to "QC" is, for lack of a better word, rather laughable.  To me, if one is going to quality check something one should have some mastery of said thing.  At least that is what makes sense to me.

What I am getting at here is take in some understanding of the situation and don't ardently criticize something so minor given the facts of that sitution.  Even those mistakes that I ahve pointed out are really no big deal at all.  As long as you can be understood or your intended meaning interpreted from what you have said then you have succeeded in your communication.

Try to ease up and just enjoy things for what they are.