Topic: Initial D 4th Stage comments... - Archive Topic (Locked)

[Supra_Saiyan]

later model 180sx were sold with the sr20det

[DrDubbleB]

dont forget about the 240sx's KA24DE motor here in the US

Yeah but he was talking about Japanese Silvia's.

Supra_Saiyan, yes you are right as well...really unfortunate too as the CA18DET is arguably a much more advanced engine.  Of course because of that it cost more to produce, which led to it being discontinued.

[fallout]

does anyone know the english names of the episodes released so far for stage 4

[Usagi_Yojimbo]

okay so the 180sx is not a Sylvia, but is the 240sx only a Sylvia in Japan

[GooWakJai]

Hey does anyone live around the Bay Area in California??  Or specified, around Hayward/Castro Valley?  Cuz I will be hostin an Initial D tournement around late Jan so I wanna see if any ppl are interested in it?  Note its location will be in Castro Valley in California.

[KillJoy]

okay so the 180sx is not a Sylvia, but is the 240sx only a Sylvia in Japan

Australia imports Silvia's as well the Silvia.  They don't re-badge the cars or anything like that.  I image most countries that are right hand driver groups can import the Silvia with much more ease than here in the U.S.

I have a 1997 240SX which is the S14 body style in Japan, and while in Australia I saw it badged both as a 200SX and as a Silvia depending on what was under the hood.  Now I think they have 200SX and Silvias with slightly different bodies though I would have to check.

[tooocool49723]

The 180sx is not a silvia, your talking RPS13 (180sx) VS S13 (silvia).  The difference is in the front end, the hatch, and the engine.

Now, the 240sx is basically a one-via (front end of 180sx and rear end of a silvia).  Much like the Sil-Eighty, which was the exact opposite combination (front of a silvia, rear of a 180).  

Some Japaneese car guys/drifters first came up with these 2 cars (onevia and sileighty) because when they crashed their cars into the mountain side, it was cheaper to replace the expensive pop up headlights with the silvia's front end.  From this, some guys did the opposite to be different and replaced the front end of their siliva with the 180sx's pop up front.  Nissan saw this and apparently thought it was a good idea, and they produced the 240sx and the sileighty (although the sileighty was sold in very small numbers and is now a collectors car, you can tell a real sileighty because it's printed on the rear quarter glass and on the center between the tail lights).

The difference of the 240sx being that the motor was the 2.4L KA24DE.   (essentially a truck motor)

Now, these three cars are completely different, except for the base unibody and some interior pieces.

[KillJoy]

At least it is a tuned truck motor.  It does have more bottom end torque for it too.  The route few people bother to take yet gives more hp than a silvia conversion is to take your 2.4L and supercharge it with the guts redone to take the abuse.  There is a guy running almost 500hp out of his and the torque is more.  best of all you don't have to wait for parts to come in from Japan.  

The silvia is still a traditionally wonderful car with perfect balance and poise.  I want one if I get the chance, but I doubt I would build one out of my 240, as I can do so much with the 4 grand I would spend on motor, tranny and frabrication time to get it to work with my wiring.  

[tooocool49723]

RB26DETT + RB25 Transmission = BEAST

Anyway,  you said you had a 97, that's the S14A correct (round headlights?).  Ever gotten a little sideways in it? (evil grin)

In all actuality, my statement about the truck motor was wrong, the truck motor is made in mexico and the 240 motor is made in japan.  There are a few other differences (such as the truck motor being single cam, and the 240 motor being made in both a single and dual cam setup).  I'll also agree that when done correctly, a KA can be a very strong motor.  The only thing about a KA that makes most guys swap in a SR is that the SR or even the CA or RB motors were all meant to be turbocharged, and therefore have internals to support it.  The KA was an N/A motor and as such needs a lot more put into it to be reliable under boost.

...yeah, i have a nismo shirt and hat...

...and i drive a subaru... lol

[Supra_Saiyan]

australia never got the s13 series silvias

we had the s12s sold here as nissan gazelles
skipped the s13s
had the s14s badged as 200sx with the sr20det
had the s15s badged as 200sx with the sr20det

however, s13s are one of the most common imports.  i have a friend with a 1990 ca18det 180sx and another friend with a 1993 180sx with a red top sr20det.

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=1958948&current_rec=1&total_rec=2&sort_type=&make_id=5&model_id=266&state_id=1&search_distance=25

^ my friends 180 with the ca18 making roughly 180kw at the rear wheels. (around 240rw hp)

too bad he is selling it soon.

[KillJoy]

yeah my girlfriend's father has a S13 down there as well.  He got it cheap because it was an Automatic.  After fixing that he has had a decent little machine.  he is thinking about putting a turbo or maybe a whole new motor in the thing.  such as the RB25.  Then again that might have been my fault since I said it is what I would do if I could get my hands on one easy and extra parts as needed from a salvo yard. (Which he can)  The only place better than Australia for importing Skylines would be NZ because they have lower taxes on imports.  I almost bought a skyline in NZ for 5,600 U.S. at the time.  

It had a 4 point belt system and everything.  But you know buying a car I couldn't import back state side is just silly.  

Just wait till I'm rich.  I'll have a skyline, with a matching paint job to my silvia.

[Cov]

Hey everyone- Just (finally) finished reading this little lot! Some of the knowledge displayed, is frankly, scary. But hey, i am not complaining!

Just a note to ask LE if they have an ETA on the subbed versions of eps 7 & 8, and also to congratulate them on their subbing- the best i have come accros. I found there subbing made more sense than even the DVDs did! Only niggle is i, like many others prefer the term hachi roku to 86, but hey, if that's the worst thing i can find to complain about, thats great! Keep up the good work LE!

[TerraRoot]

hi guys, i was just wondering, how much are 86's going for in your area? here in ireland it's a bout €10000 avg ($12500) and if i saw one for less then €6500 it's either an 85 with ML's or about to blow!
i'm thinkin of importing an 86, probably from US,
btw whats your favorite part? i love the battle with the 85 in stage1.

[DARCnarc]

favorite part? takumi's kamikaze downhill run when he's crazily pissed off
initiating the drift from the impact-----gold

[TerraRoot]

the battle with Shingo? yea that was the best serious battle yet, including the fourth stage, i love the fourth stage but only cause i'm drooling
at the beautiful cars . Takumi seems dull, faster but dull, in the newest episodes. i loved it when he got a little outta shape, like the above
mentioned battles and when he found out about Moji and raced the emperors. i was moved (sniff) when bunta showed up.