Hi there
I've been lurking in these forums for a long time.
However the events of the past few days has made me decide to post my view on the intentional delay issue.
First of all, thank you LE and IDE for the excellent fansubs! I throughly enjoy them, even the Karaoke style opening and closing
However, I think all these threats about delaying the subs from coming out are nonsensical and uncalled for. Just because some noob logs on for the first time and asks for the episodes isnt cause to punish the entire fansub community by delaying the subs.
Many of us are not kids, and we need not be treated like so. What does delaying subs do? It simply shows that pride is beginning to surface amongst some of the LE people. Just by making fansubs that people enjoy doesnt make you their Lord and Ruler. I understand you may be frustrated that some people do not understand the time and effort needed to produce such excellent fansubs however this doesnt give you the power to threaten a delay.
I find it disheartening that some people have stooped to almost bootlicking proportions to placate LE and sooth LE's anger at noobs who demand subs. LE are not your gods, if LE wasnt doing subs, someone else would be.
LE please do not fall into the trap that is called pride. While we respect your abilities to turn out great fansubs, many of us also notice a certain proudness growing from within. By all means take the time you need to churn out the fansubs but do not judge or punish those who do not recognize the effort needed. Continuously threatening delays only reinforces the impression of arrogance on your part. So just bring on the fansubs at your own time and ignore the unreasonable demands of noobs, they are this way because they enjoy your fansubs too but are not tactful in their haste to get more of the good stuff from LE.
Just remember, LE is only as big as the fans. Without people who download your fansubs, you are nothing.
Thanks for reading my rant. Once again thanks for the fansubs.
You're missing the point here a little....
A lot of the L-E staff have their computers connected to IRC 24 hours a day 7 days a week. IRC is our primary means of communication and getting the job done. My computer has not been restarted now for 1 week and 5 days. At least for me when I'm fansubbing I normally have mirc open and sub station alpha and I'm constantly switching between the 2. I spend half an hour timing then talk to people for half an hour and answer any pm's I've got.
When I switch back to mirc and the first thing I see is "When is ID4 gonna be out" or some variant it is downright irritating especially when I myself tried to stem the flow of the incessant questions by posting to the L-E home page, earlier in this thread and on IDForums saying words to the effect of "it will take at LEAST a week but possibly longer". However people have chosen to ignore that and warnings in the topic.
Which would you rather us be doing with our free time...fansubbing or answering the same question over and over again.
Let me give you another example..lets say you got a painter in to decorate one of your rooms. Would you be going to him every few minutes asking him when he's gonna be finished? No you wouldn't out of courtesy to him, you'd just leave him to it and let him get on with the job.
We might just be nicks in an IRC channel to you but we're real people heck I've just been at work all day and am sat here typing this post instead of getting on with more important things like timing an ep of a new show that L-E will be doing.
It's dead simple - STOP BUGGING US ABOUT RELEASE DATES!!!. and there wouldnt be a problem.
All that incessant questioning does is
1) Mean we spend less time doing the actual job we're here to do
2) Irritates us because we're answering the same question over and over again.
We're not evil, we're not trying to be sadistic we're just fed up with being bugged all the time. You know ID4 is the ONLY project where we have people bugging us about release dates. Perhaps you should take pity on Cha Cha fans. They've been waiting for the 3rd and final ep of the OVA for nearly a year now. You only have to wait a few weeks.
Ok heres some hard facts for you.
ID4 ep 15 - The subbing of this ep is pretty far advanced and MIGHT be released soon. However I will NOT say when because I'm not involved in the project.
ID4 ep 16 - This ep hasn't been translated yet.
Now before you all kick off, its because the translator has got real life issues to deal with + work for other projects to deal with. It will be translated when he's got time.
Now I know a certain percentage of the ID fans reading this will say ok cool real life comes first but I know for a fact and as has been demonstrated a certain percentage of the ID fan population will take the view of "why hasn't it been translated ZOMG I NEED MY ID" and think that we should a) force the translator to translate it at virtual gun point b) think we should get another translator or c) think we should use someone elses script. We will resort to none of these solutions and wait till the guy has had time to do translate it.
Now I hope that this bit of information will calm down the whiners and I hope that it will be read in a responsible way. I will also give my personal assurance that anyone who uses the information in an irresponsible way and decides to come and argue the point like "is ep 15 finished yet" or "is ep 16 translated yet" will be kicked and banned so fast you won't know whats hit you. Take this little status update at face value and just wait for the eps to be finished ok?
Regards
gumbaloom
L-E Staffer