Topic: initial d 4th stage ep. 11 and 12

[gumbaloom]

Hehe I'm inclined to agree with the general opinion of the people posting here..

Simple fact is this, when you're fansubbing you have IRC open and you have substation alpha/medusa open. Fansubbing is one of the rare things where there is such direct contact between the person doing it and the person who derrives benefit from it.

I've been in the game for just over a year now and I can tell you from experience, if you're hanging out in a channel at the same time as trying to get fansubbing work done, its incredibly distracting seeing people asking "when will X be out".  At least for me when such conversation is happening I find it very difficult to concentrate on my work. When you come on IRC to ask "when will ID4 eps XX be out" just remember that you are probably just distracting the people who work on the show from getting the job done.  

Its a common courtesy across the whole fansubbing world that one does not ask when new eps are coming out. L-E is not on its own in not giving "status updates". Look at animesuki theres a pinned thread saying "Dont ask when the next ep will be out".

The simple reason as has been stated many times before is people have lives. I'm doing a Masters Degree and I have a 70 credit dissertation in the works. This comes BEFORE the work I'm doing on typesetting Shin Kaguya Shima Densetsu. However people are happy to wait because they know that there will be quality work done.

Just because someone is being slow with their bit of the job doesnt mean they care about the show it just means that they are sticking to the golden rule of fansubbing

REAL LIFE COMES FIRST

Regards


gumbaloom

[Anonymousse]

And thus begins my Japanese language lessons....

Faster to learn the lingo than to wait for 11 & 12... (a MONTH now...)

[Yoten]

And thus begins my Japanese language lessons....

Faster to learn the lingo than to wait for 11 & 12... (a MONTH now...)

Good, then maybe you'll actually do something PRODUCTIVE with your life rather than wet yourself waiting for new fansubs.

Aside from everything that's been said so far, which is all true, you guys are missing another point: Even putting up a statement saying exactly where the episode is in the fansubbing process won't help anything. For one, just like the "Eps 11&12 AREN'T OUT YET!" warning that gets put in the IRC channel's topic, nobody would ever read it. Your average person is just too stupid to read the first thing that pops into their window when entering a channel. If we DID do that though, and it stayed at, say, "typesetting" for three or four days, we'd just have people asking "When is the typesetting going to be done?", and "Why is the typesetting taking so long?". Same stupid questions, different subject -- and this way it'd be a lot more personal since the bottleneck now points at a specific person. I doubt anyone wants the entire fanbase breathing down their neck personally.

So in other words, remember that you guys who actually pay attention to our announcements are the minority by an extremely large margin. While more "communication" might satisfy some of you guys (but probably won't -- see my points above), it wouldn't alleviate any of the irritation WE receive. Things should hopefully be getting back on track soon, so just keep waiting. Or come to L-E's IRC channel so I can abuse you to alleviate stress/boredom.

[Sti_Brumby]

sounds like you can't even have your own say in this forums without some random going flaming at you.

clint.

[Yoten]

Hope that wasn't directed at me, as his post was clearly him whining, angrily at that, about how long the subs are taking. And you can't say actually going out and learning another language, much less one that applies to your hobbies, is a bad thing. And finally, it's funny yet not unexpected how I'm still considered random. I like it.

[Brokenimage0]

i would love to try and learnt he language but i just dont have the time anymore unless someone has some good tips on it i mean ive treid the whole tapes thing from the library i jsut didnt have time to listen to tapes and focus on work at the same time. is there like a website or something that could help out with this process that anyone knows about?

[Yoten]

Buy a real textbook (the Genki series is good). Or even better, join a class. At the very least, a university near you should have one.

It's very easy to say "Oh, I want to learn Japanese", or "I'll learn it someday", but you will never get anywhere until you start taking action. If you honestly care enough, go do it. Hell, I'm studying abroad for a full year in Japan right now, and even that didn't take TOO much effort. Just a lot of paperwork... :x

[Brokenimage0]

My biggest problem is that im still in school and work takes up most of the rest of my time so a textbook series would be great thanks for the idea im going to look into it. Thanks

[hellbent]

the problem with those Internet courses are, that if u are like me, u need a real live to person to comminicate with, trust me, its so much easier to go to a class with a bunch of people and listen, than doing it through the internet alone with no help.

[debchan]

Yeah, hellbent.  I need to hear the language, which is why after a few months of studying on my own, I signed up for some classes.  

Brokenimage, there are no shortcuts.  A webpage is going to give you basics, but pretty soon you'll hit a wall and get frustrated (at least, that was my experience).  The Pimsleur audio courses are pretty good, and they only take a half an hour a day.  But even so, nothing replaces the classroom experience and having a teacher to explain the things you still won't understand.

[sarcasm] I hope the newbie that whined earlier really does attempt to learn Japanese.  It will only take a few years, and then s/he/it can watch raws without having to wait for those inconsiderate fan subbers. You know, those jerks who provide subs for us, despite not getting anything out of it except whining and hystericals demands for updates and releases. [/sarcasm]  

[Sti_Brumby]

As they said before they do it for themselfs and there freinds to share. Were only lucky that they would share it with us.

[Anonymousse]

I guess people are too busy chatting on IRC about how other people should keep their damn mouth shut about 11 & 12 to actually get the damn things done.

Recently fansubbing has gotten out of hand with fonts that change shape and morph and do all sorts of crazy stuff that while cool at first, makes you wonder "Hm... How much longer did it take to do this fancy stuff?"

Let's get on with the story, already.

And if for some odd reason you guys should ever have Korean material in need of translation, I'll gladly help.  I just refuse to do the fancy font.

And I understand a little bit of Japanese, considering that I was stationed in Okinawa for 2 years as a Marine.  I was too busy getting drunk and getting into trouble to actually learn the language.  Silly me.

[Yoten]

I agree, karaoke stylings are far more trouble than they're worth. I myself was happy back in the day when they were just static lines of text at the top/bottom of the screen with the romaji and translation, but I don't doubt that we'd get tons of complaining from the community that we were "lazy" if we or ANY group started doing that now. Overblown effects are expected now.

[Brokenimage0]

Yeah i would like to learn the basics before i take a class so i can sign up when i head out for college next year. so a textbook or a good sudio course is something that will help me get the basics down so that will be step one step 2 classes step 3...i dont know maybe ill head to japan for a while...step 4 spend alot of time there =P.

[3sgte]

Must not feed trolls...

Slaps self...