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Just_J

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #630 on: November 18, 2004, 08:50:54 pm »
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Now the USDM STI was not always 2.5 litre only the newst Generation, all the new USDM STI are 2.5l but there not the first 2.5l Turbo, in limited amounts there were RS wagons with the turbo and a Legacy turbo that was 2.5L, their not the same block as the STI is using now, and even turboed they weren't much to talk about but they were 2.5L and Turbo


PERIODS!!! Without proper punctuation, it's almost impossible to decypher what you're trying to say.

Will you stop making shit up! If you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth.

The USDM Impreza STI was ALWAYS 2.5L. It was new in 2004. I dare you to find an USDM 03 Impreza STi. YOU WON'T, they DON'T EXIST.

The WRX has always been 2.0L, but don't confuse the WRX and WRX STi. Different cars.

There were NEVER Turbocharged RS Wagons built by Subaru for the US. Hell, the RS wagon didn't EXIST untill 04/05, before then, it was called the TS in the states. The Legacy Turbo was also a 2.2L, the NEW Legacy GT is a 2.5L but that came well AFTER the STi did in the US.

For real, you should stop now. I guarentee you will not win an Impreza debate against me. I hate to sound cocky, but I know my car, and it's siblings inside and out.

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a 13.4 1/4 mile in an Impreza indicates a shitty driver, and why were you 1/4 miling a goddamn RS to start with, You have to go through a lot of work in an RS to make it strip worthy, like swapping in an EJ20 end even than you'd need to SC it or go to a bigger turbo set up


Yup, more babble about shit you know nothing about. I don't know if you're referring to me, but it was a 13.8, get it straight. My car was turbo'd (the 2.5L was turbo'd), don't believe me? Here:



Any car can be strip worthy, if you decide to Bracket race.

And if my car were still turbo'd, I'd hand you the keys, and watch you stumble to mid 14 second times, before you lunched my tranny.

Re: The EJ20. Just putting the WRX motor in the car (and you don't supercharge it fool, it has a turbo already) will put the RS deep in the 13s, because of the Power to weight, and the uber short gearing of the RS.

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and if not, yes you're going to lose, and no you will not bark the tires,.


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My comment on drag racing sucking, is based on the fact that a car built for strip is so specialized it's ruined for anything else, and Strip racers ( drag or street ) are so god damn simple all they can do is launch and shift.


You know, you should sell your car, and just catch the bus from now on. You keep talking like you have a clue, when you don't even have a solid grasp on the concept of racing.

It's funny you say Drag strip cars are so specialized, yet Circut racers aren't? You can't do much else but circut race in something like the Audi R8 Prototype racer.

And drag racing is not simple you fool. There's more to driving than launching and shifting. I would pay money to see you drive the 7 second car mentioned above. I'd bet you'd either put it into a wall, or cross the center line before you finished your 12 second run.

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Now don't anyone try and say I don't know what I'm talking about, or even hint that I'm a ricer ( death to rice ) cause I am not in anyway a ricer.


Here, I'll make it easy to read. :) You don't know what your talking about. End of story.

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My faith in Suabru, especially on Impreza's is based on the fact that they can be built in any diretion and own in any form of racing.


Wrong. The fastest straight line Subaru is barely in the 8s. That's far from owning anything. They can hold their own on a race track, but must be HIGHLY modified. The JTCC Impreza is RWD, and it doesn't own either.

Impreza's own Rally, and Autocross, that's it.

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A car, nearly any car in stock form, isn't race worthy in any class ( and I know there are exceptions w/ high performance cars but we're talking tuners here ) they have to be built and modified engineered to an extent to be competitve.


You don't Autocross do you?

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All I'm saying is an Impreza can be built in any direction into a winning competitive car.


And I'm telling you that's fanboy pipedream talk. I love Subarus, and admit I'm biased twords them. But I'm not dillusional twords their abilities. They can hold their own in anything, but they are out of their element in drag racing, and circuit racing events. While they're fun to drive in these events, and will hold up well, they will not own a damn thing.

Put 'em in the dirt, or on an autocross course, and it's a different story.

Just_J

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #631 on: November 18, 2004, 08:53:56 pm »
Ugh, I get riled up easy when talking cars. It drives me nuts when people spout off bullshit.

Every time some jackoff spouts BS about any car, I tend to go on the offensive, so I apologize for being harsh. But for real:

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth.

Just_J

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #632 on: November 18, 2004, 08:56:38 pm »
Lastly, don't call me a bad driver. I can assure you I'm not.

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #633 on: November 18, 2004, 10:35:32 pm »
ga! don't triple post! there's an edit button.....EDITTTTT :D

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #634 on: November 19, 2004, 01:54:07 am »
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ga! don't triple post! there's an edit button.....EDITTTTT :D


lol sorry.... :(



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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #635 on: November 19, 2004, 03:16:14 am »
I am going to do, what many others here should also do - admit when they are wrong.

Just_J you are right - I was thinking of the RB5.  Took me ages to find suitbale URLs, but here's one http://www.live2cruize.com/impreza_22b.htm.

But hey what do I know - I'm in to the power going through only the correct wheels ;)

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #636 on: November 19, 2004, 04:32:20 am »
ahah y r ppl so work up? maybe it's because ppl r getting impatient for the live evil ID4 eps 7 and 8??? *hinT*hint*

btw... my 4 stroke supercharge ride on lawn mower will own all of u..................... in my backyard....

0-10km in 1.0 sec i got it dynoed @ 30kw @ the wheels...hahaha

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #637 on: November 19, 2004, 04:45:31 am »
Yes Just_J is right

Usagi Yojimbo, u dont know shit.  try using punctuation and correct words.  not only are u talking crap, u dont make sense.

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Now the USDM STI was not always 2.5 litre only the newst Generation, all the new USDM STI are 2.5l but there not the first 2.5l Turbo, in limited amounts there were RS wagons with the turbo and a Legacy turbo that was 2.5L, their not the same block as the STI is using now, and even turboed they weren't much to talk about but they were 2.5L and Turbo

^ bla blah blah ... wateva man.  there wasnt even one full stop in the above crap.

Yes, the CUSCO SUBARU ADVAN IMPREZA in the JGTC GT300 series is highly modified and RWD and is not "owning" the competition.  In fact, in 2004 round 1, it finished 14th, 3 laps behind the 1st car.
round 2, it finished 12th, an amazing 7 laps behind
round 3, it finished 18th, 3 laps behind
round 4, it finished 6th, 0'29.368 seconds behind
round 5, it finished 11th, 2 laps behind
round 6, it finished 3rd, 0'05.706 seconds behind
Team Cusco Racing is currently ranked 9th in the GT300 series.  not exactly owning is it?

How about the All Japan Rally Championship?
oooh look, a Lancer Evolution won the 2003 season
http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/local2003/jrc/index.html

And have a look at the points standing after round 6 2004
1 F.NUTAHARA MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 335
2 H.TAGUCHI(CMSC SAITAMA) MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 305

3 N.KATSUTA SUBARU IMPREZA 245
4 MASAYUKI.ISHIDA MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 211
5 MASASI.ISHIDA MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 170
6 T.KAMATA SUBARU IMPREZA 155
7 Y.NISHIO SUBARU IMPREZA 128
8 M.AYABE SUBARU IMPREZA 128
9 K.KIYOI SUBARU IMPREZA 68
10 Y.SUMIYAMA SUBARU IMPREZA 60

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/motorsports/e/04alljp/rally/r_06e.html

It looks like the Lancer Evolution is owning.  Its not WRC, but it still goes to show that imprezas dont own everything.
http://www.wrc.com/Results/Standings.asp?Year=2004&ChampType=D
These are the manufacturers championship standings for 2004
1.  Citroën
2.  Ford
3.  Subaru

and look. subaru driver Petter SOLBERG is on 82 points, 36 points behind  Citroën driver Sébastien LOEB.
1. Sébastien LOEB
2. Petter SOLBERG

However, subaru has taken the top 2 spots in the Production Car WRC
http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/pcwrc2004/index.html
1 N.McShea SUBARU 35
2 T.Arai SUBARU 30

3 J.Paasonen Mitsubishi 29
4 X.Pons Mitsubishi 27

So do wat Just_J says.  STFU and catch a bus.

Usagi_Yojimbo =
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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #638 on: November 19, 2004, 04:28:19 pm »
ROTFLMAO

To change the subject slightly, here's me going down to the shops http://www.hippocampus.f9.co.uk/pshop/rx7divx.avi
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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #639 on: November 19, 2004, 06:06:22 pm »
So now that you guys have wasted everyone elses time talking about scoobies... when are 7 and 8 coming out? I have them raw so I know they are around...

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #640 on: November 19, 2004, 06:42:54 pm »
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So now that you guys have wasted everyone elses time talking about scoobies... when are 7 and 8 coming out? I have them raw so I know they are around...



Around 95% before it gets released  [smiley=biggrin.gif]
Something tells me where's not in Kansas anymore...

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #641 on: November 19, 2004, 08:17:49 pm »
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It looks like the Lancer Evolution is owning.  Its not WRC, but it still goes to show that imprezas dont own everything.
http://www.wrc.com/Results/Standings.asp?Year=2004&ChampType=D
These are the manufacturers championship standings for 2004
1.  Citroën
2.  Ford
3.  Subaru

and look. subaru driver Petter SOLBERG is on 82 points, 36 points behind  Citroën driver Sébastien LOEB.
1. Sébastien LOEB
2. Petter SOLBERG


LOL, oh man that was a funny post.

In all fairness to my boy Petter, they did win more stages than any other car (by alot 95, next closest was Gronholm with 68, then Sebastian with 65), and had it not been for bad luck in a few events, he most likely would've kept the crown (after restarting a few events, he dominated the field, but his times didn't count). ;) Sebastion won more on the reliability of his car, and his consistancy rather than his overall speed.

I can't wait untill the Monte. :D
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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #642 on: November 19, 2004, 08:17:54 pm »
who said anything about a wrx motor and you DO supercharge it, http://www.raptorsc.com.au/subkits.h
http://www.raptorsc.com.au/subkits.h
Turbo lag sucks on the strip, no I wouldn't pull 14's you dumbshit you just don't know how to drive pussy.
No scooby are not the best initial design for strip, but like any tuner they can be helped in that direction http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/article.aspx?contentID=4022785&s=SEMA2004&src=minishow
No not every competitive impreza on earth is undefeated but they kick a lot of ass for being in so many different forms of racing, and Just_J, you know so little yet you talk so much, a sign of selfimportant prick if you ask me. and I garuntee, that me and my RS could whip your ass soundly in ANY form of racing, you don't know me fool, don't act like you do. You pretentious douchebag!
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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #643 on: November 19, 2004, 08:31:43 pm »
Usagi - RS what ?  Lots of manufacturers ahve had lots of models labelled RS, normalyl targetted at 17-18 year old boys who think themselves the greatest driver around.

Just_J made no boast about his drivign prowess, he just pointed out that he does actually own a scooby and knows about the model of car and it's international history.  I don't, but then I own a MK1 MX-5 and a 3rd gen RX-7 (FD3S) and do know about those and tuning options.  I also would probably suck at 1/4 miles runs, but then mine are tuned for the track (you have compeltely different suspension and wheel set ups for rally, road, track and drag strip.

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Re: Initial D 4th Stage comments...
« Reply #644 on: November 19, 2004, 08:33:44 pm »
BTW - turbo lag only comes in to it at low revs, once the car is moving you'll be changing gear in to a spooled up turbo, so it's only moving off the mark that you'll pay the penalty, and even then you can partially get round that with a spool assist or anti-lag ECU set-up.

Now a charge cooler IS far superior to an inter-cooler on the drag strip as it is working all the time (the difference is the former pumps water round the cooling sysem, the latter relies only on cold air moving over the inter-cooler radiator).

Oh and I do know the difference.  My MX-5 was (until a few months after I got the RX-7) super-charged with a charge-cooler, my RX-7 comes with twin serial turbos (and still has) and an intercooler (stock one now replaced with a large full width unit).
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